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		<title>By: GREATBONG</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/09/01/meltdown/#comment-1084</link>
		<dc:creator>GREATBONG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 23:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anon and Akash: the race angle I am not really buying into.

1) The scale of 9/11 was nothing compared to this....there it was basically 2 big buildings and the surroundings...here it&#039;s 80% of the city under 20 feet of water.

2) Gulliani was a better mayor than the one at New Orleans who has now vanished.

3) There are Caucasians among the refugees as well as looters (have seen it on TV). However the majority that are affected is black not because blacks are being discriminated against but because the main sufferers are poor people who had no means to leave the city.....and in any US city poor people are mostly black.

@Yourfan: 1) To be fair, Katrina started out as Cat 1 and then suddenly, without warning, picked up momentum over the Gulf of Mexico and became Cat 5. There was basically 12 hours advance notice people got....and it is impossible to clear our a city of New Orleans size in 12 hours. 

2) In many places after the Tsunami, there was looting and pillaging of dead bodies...I refer you to &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://desimediabitch.blogspot.com/2005/08/leeches-come-to-rescue-of-hurricane.html#112547165926996692&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
this piece by my good friend Suhail&lt;/A&gt;

However there was not a total breakdown of law and order like in Orleans where cops are running scared, street gangs are raping and looting in broad daylight and goons are shooting at red cross helicopters and boats trying to rescue people. This is what Mr Smith needs to be told: 

&quot;Such things dont happen in third world countries as a rule.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anon and Akash: the race angle I am not really buying into.</p>
<p>1) The scale of 9/11 was nothing compared to this&#8230;.there it was basically 2 big buildings and the surroundings&#8230;here it&#8217;s 80% of the city under 20 feet of water.</p>
<p>2) Gulliani was a better mayor than the one at New Orleans who has now vanished.</p>
<p>3) There are Caucasians among the refugees as well as looters (have seen it on TV). However the majority that are affected is black not because blacks are being discriminated against but because the main sufferers are poor people who had no means to leave the city&#8230;..and in any US city poor people are mostly black.</p>
<p>@Yourfan: 1) To be fair, Katrina started out as Cat 1 and then suddenly, without warning, picked up momentum over the Gulf of Mexico and became Cat 5. There was basically 12 hours advance notice people got&#8230;.and it is impossible to clear our a city of New Orleans size in 12 hours. </p>
<p>2) In many places after the Tsunami, there was looting and pillaging of dead bodies&#8230;I refer you to <a HREF="http://desimediabitch.blogspot.com/2005/08/leeches-come-to-rescue-of-hurricane.html#112547165926996692" rel="nofollow"><br />
this piece by my good friend Suhail</a></p>
<p>However there was not a total breakdown of law and order like in Orleans where cops are running scared, street gangs are raping and looting in broad daylight and goons are shooting at red cross helicopters and boats trying to rescue people. This is what Mr Smith needs to be told: </p>
<p>&#8220;Such things dont happen in third world countries as a rule.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Akash</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/09/01/meltdown/#comment-1083</link>
		<dc:creator>Akash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the main reason for this massive and unexpected damage in New Orleans is due to the breach in the embankments that guard this lowland city. I guess that this possibility was ignored by the engineers.

But the flood in Mumbai was because of the poorly maintained underground sewerage systems (like Calcutta) that one can ill-afford to ignore. It would be very interesting to know New Orleans resistance in its pre-Katrina sewerage systems against Mumbai-like heavy rains.

Why most of the affected are black Americans is a telling point and calls for some good explanation. Amardeep Singh&#039;s post and a subsequent discussion  broached some points on the issue. One may like to take a look at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the main reason for this massive and unexpected damage in New Orleans is due to the breach in the embankments that guard this lowland city. I guess that this possibility was ignored by the engineers.</p>
<p>But the flood in Mumbai was because of the poorly maintained underground sewerage systems (like Calcutta) that one can ill-afford to ignore. It would be very interesting to know New Orleans resistance in its pre-Katrina sewerage systems against Mumbai-like heavy rains.</p>
<p>Why most of the affected are black Americans is a telling point and calls for some good explanation. Amardeep Singh&#8217;s post and a subsequent discussion  broached some points on the issue. One may like to take a look at that.</p>
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		<title>By: yourfan</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/09/01/meltdown/#comment-1082</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As Sheppard Smith, Fox New&#039;s Dan Rather-wannabe mentioned---the situation in New Orleans is as bad as it is in a third world country. ( a sentiment echoed in multiple places)&quot;

              I donâ€™t understand why reporters like Sheppard Smiths draw ananlogy to the third world countries.
              1. With all the latest weather warnings, all modern equipments and facilities why didnâ€™t the people evacuate? How foolish they can get? The tsunami victims did not get any warning â€“ remember? 
             2. Nobody in the third world harmed their own neighbours â€“ like the gun trotting/looting demons. 
            What amazes me the most is that these news reporters are supposed to have better perspective of the world. So they should use their brain to check whether all the parameters are the same in the comparisons between the richest nation and the third world countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As Sheppard Smith, Fox New&#8217;s Dan Rather-wannabe mentioned&#8212;the situation in New Orleans is as bad as it is in a third world country. ( a sentiment echoed in multiple places)&#8221;</p>
<p>              I donâ€™t understand why reporters like Sheppard Smiths draw ananlogy to the third world countries.<br />
              1. With all the latest weather warnings, all modern equipments and facilities why didnâ€™t the people evacuate? How foolish they can get? The tsunami victims did not get any warning â€“ remember?<br />
             2. Nobody in the third world harmed their own neighbours â€“ like the gun trotting/looting demons.<br />
            What amazes me the most is that these news reporters are supposed to have better perspective of the world. So they should use their brain to check whether all the parameters are the same in the comparisons between the richest nation and the third world countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/09/01/meltdown/#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is hard for me to believe that the Feds reaction to this does not have something to do with the FACT that most people affected are poor and african american..(my own guess would be more than 90% are. I am squinting hard to find a caucasian american in that group inside the astrodome and yet to find one)...The difference between the response to the NYC incident and this one is unbelievable and sad..reveals the true color of those in charge (note: this has nothing to do with political affiliations)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is hard for me to believe that the Feds reaction to this does not have something to do with the FACT that most people affected are poor and african american..(my own guess would be more than 90% are. I am squinting hard to find a caucasian american in that group inside the astrodome and yet to find one)&#8230;The difference between the response to the NYC incident and this one is unbelievable and sad..reveals the true color of those in charge (note: this has nothing to do with political affiliations)</p>
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		<title>By: GREATBONG</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/09/01/meltdown/#comment-1080</link>
		<dc:creator>GREATBONG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 18:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rimi...thanks...:-)

@Ritzy.. yes but who is there to tell the Western world about that.

@Sakshi...So it is---a glimpse into the end of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rimi&#8230;thanks&#8230;:-)</p>
<p>@Ritzy.. yes but who is there to tell the Western world about that.</p>
<p>@Sakshi&#8230;So it is&#8212;a glimpse into the end of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Sakshi</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/09/01/meltdown/#comment-1079</link>
		<dc:creator>Sakshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just sad....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just sad&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ritzy</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/09/01/meltdown/#comment-1078</link>
		<dc:creator>Ritzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 09:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were hardly incidences of looting in Mumbai at the time of deluge, except one or two car theft. Saying this, as I have witnessed myself.
Yeah sure, though called a third world country, we fare better in this regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were hardly incidences of looting in Mumbai at the time of deluge, except one or two car theft. Saying this, as I have witnessed myself.<br />
Yeah sure, though called a third world country, we fare better in this regard.</p>
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		<title>By: rimi</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/09/01/meltdown/#comment-1077</link>
		<dc:creator>rimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 08:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...on normal days, the odds of finding an alligator or a gang of men with Ak47s in a third world city are....remote.&quot;

loyalty to blog reconfirmed. these are the priceless bits that keep bringing me back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;on normal days, the odds of finding an alligator or a gang of men with Ak47s in a third world city are&#8230;.remote.&#8221;</p>
<p>loyalty to blog reconfirmed. these are the priceless bits that keep bringing me back!</p>
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		<title>By: GREATBONG</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/09/01/meltdown/#comment-1076</link>
		<dc:creator>GREATBONG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 01:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David....well the way I interpret Nature is as the entity against which Man has had to struggle to claim the world.

@Michael: Yes definitely we should be saying that....the hubris the Western media suffer from is mind numbing.

They would be astonished to see that third world countries react much better to natural calamities on a similar scale....and that on normal days, the odds of finding an alligator or a gang of men with Ak47s in a third world city are....remote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David&#8230;.well the way I interpret Nature is as the entity against which Man has had to struggle to claim the world.</p>
<p>@Michael: Yes definitely we should be saying that&#8230;.the hubris the Western media suffer from is mind numbing.</p>
<p>They would be astonished to see that third world countries react much better to natural calamities on a similar scale&#8230;.and that on normal days, the odds of finding an alligator or a gang of men with Ak47s in a third world city are&#8230;.remote.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Higgins</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/09/01/meltdown/#comment-1075</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greatbong
Next time Mumbai has a flood, and things are all chaotic, someone should say, &quot;Man, this is as bad as New Orleans...almost&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greatbong<br />
Next time Mumbai has a flood, and things are all chaotic, someone should say, &#8220;Man, this is as bad as New Orleans&#8230;almost&#8221;.</p>
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