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		<title>By: Snaptrix</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I was going through some of your archives and I stumbled on this. I know this is a very old post and Im extremely late in posting and you may never read this- but what the heck.

Unfortunately I&#039;m not all that into Cricket (gasp!) but I still remember the 2003 World Cup final that we had with Australia - the pride that I felt in having G at the helm of our team to fend off Ponting and the Aussies. Ganguly was spectacularly different from the mold of the Indian Cricketer - aggressive, fiercely determined to win - our Aussie to take on the Aussies. 

Perhaps the parochialism stems from just jealousy - that no other state produced a man as firebrand as Ganguly. 

I&#039;m not a bong and I cant explain this virulence against G. He deserves much more than his current status of non-entity. Not just for his innate cricketing class and his unbiased captaincy - but also for being cut out of a totally different cloth altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I was going through some of your archives and I stumbled on this. I know this is a very old post and Im extremely late in posting and you may never read this- but what the heck.</p>
<p>Unfortunately I&#8217;m not all that into Cricket (gasp!) but I still remember the 2003 World Cup final that we had with Australia &#8211; the pride that I felt in having G at the helm of our team to fend off Ponting and the Aussies. Ganguly was spectacularly different from the mold of the Indian Cricketer &#8211; aggressive, fiercely determined to win &#8211; our Aussie to take on the Aussies. </p>
<p>Perhaps the parochialism stems from just jealousy &#8211; that no other state produced a man as firebrand as Ganguly. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a bong and I cant explain this virulence against G. He deserves much more than his current status of non-entity. Not just for his innate cricketing class and his unbiased captaincy &#8211; but also for being cut out of a totally different cloth altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: A Cricket Rant at Random Thoughts of a Demented Mind</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Which brings me to the press. No I am not talking about the pearls of wisdom of Ravi Shastri like how Gautam Gambhir would be sending the South Africans on a leather hunt. I am talking about India&#8217;s leading cricket-themed website Cricinfo and their cricket experts. This is what I said about them once, long ago. And Cricinfo. Man I used to really like these guysâ€”unlike the guys at TOI they understand their cricket. They still do I think but in the Ganguly issue have totally lost their objectivity. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Which brings me to the press. No I am not talking about the pearls of wisdom of Ravi Shastri like how Gautam Gambhir would be sending the South Africans on a leather hunt. I am talking about India&#8217;s leading cricket-themed website Cricinfo and their cricket experts. This is what I said about them once, long ago. And Cricinfo. Man I used to really like these guysâ€”unlike the guys at TOI they understand their cricket. They still do I think but in the Ganguly issue have totally lost their objectivity. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rahul</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/10/29/die-sourav-die/#comment-13264</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arnab,
Your blog was recommended to me by a freind and i have been going through your archives for the last 2 weeks whenever i get some time. To say the least i was bowled over by your sense of humour, your views on society, media, idealism. May be that was because I also kinda have the same opinions. But your posts on Ganguly has been a big diappointment. They reek of losing the very objectivism which you have accused cricinfo of. In the process, at various points of time you have made insulting remarks about other people which is totally unwarranted. As a Ganguly fan you do have reasons for feeling pain and more importantly, digust/ angst, for the way it was done. Going by your other posts i never thought that something like this could come from you. Recently there was this issue about equality which you had commented upon. If you pass your posts about Ganguly through the same standards which were talked about, you fail miserably.
You may say that it is your blog and your own space and you can write whatever you want to. No denying that. But dont lose the very principles on which you have creaated this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arnab,<br />
Your blog was recommended to me by a freind and i have been going through your archives for the last 2 weeks whenever i get some time. To say the least i was bowled over by your sense of humour, your views on society, media, idealism. May be that was because I also kinda have the same opinions. But your posts on Ganguly has been a big diappointment. They reek of losing the very objectivism which you have accused cricinfo of. In the process, at various points of time you have made insulting remarks about other people which is totally unwarranted. As a Ganguly fan you do have reasons for feeling pain and more importantly, digust/ angst, for the way it was done. Going by your other posts i never thought that something like this could come from you. Recently there was this issue about equality which you had commented upon. If you pass your posts about Ganguly through the same standards which were talked about, you fail miserably.<br />
You may say that it is your blog and your own space and you can write whatever you want to. No denying that. But dont lose the very principles on which you have creaated this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/10/29/die-sourav-die/#comment-1633</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To say that the national media is biased (according to jester_ ) and is anti-ganguly is a huge pile of 
machli-sh** from the hoogli.

*Saurav has got his fair due from the national media when he led from the front in nat-west, aus tour. He has been feted as the best captain India ever had by the national media. From what I read in the national media, even now nobody is questioning his captaincy or his leadership skills. His batting has also been praised when he did well in Aus and in 99,00 seasons. 

 IT IS HIS CURRENT BATTING EVERYBODY IS DISGUSTED ABOUT. This is what the national media is criticizing.

Why do some bongs here think that if anybody criticizes Saurav in the media it is anti-ganguli and by extension anti-bengali??...Is that some kind of weird bong logic?

Learn to Accept Facts. Saurav Ganguly has been a Liability for India&#039;s batting over the last couple of years. Scoring a centruy against zim or in duleep does not change his form or bring back his class. If he had his class he should have scored a century  against Pakistan. The Man has Just LOST his Magic. Therefore he does not deserve a place in the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say that the national media is biased (according to jester_ ) and is anti-ganguly is a huge pile of<br />
machli-sh** from the hoogli.</p>
<p>*Saurav has got his fair due from the national media when he led from the front in nat-west, aus tour. He has been feted as the best captain India ever had by the national media. From what I read in the national media, even now nobody is questioning his captaincy or his leadership skills. His batting has also been praised when he did well in Aus and in 99,00 seasons. </p>
<p> IT IS HIS CURRENT BATTING EVERYBODY IS DISGUSTED ABOUT. This is what the national media is criticizing.</p>
<p>Why do some bongs here think that if anybody criticizes Saurav in the media it is anti-ganguli and by extension anti-bengali??&#8230;Is that some kind of weird bong logic?</p>
<p>Learn to Accept Facts. Saurav Ganguly has been a Liability for India&#8217;s batting over the last couple of years. Scoring a centruy against zim or in duleep does not change his form or bring back his class. If he had his class he should have scored a century  against Pakistan. The Man has Just LOST his Magic. Therefore he does not deserve a place in the team.</p>
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		<title>By: DesiIndian</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/10/29/die-sourav-die/#comment-1632</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is something for you guys

People of Anti Sourav talked about green pitch top in Nagpur Test--- IF YOU ARE STAYING IN A WORLD OF GLASS DON&#039;T DARE TO THROW STONE TO OTHER AS IT WOULD COME BACK TO YOU&quot;
you guys gave green top in Nagpur we give you here in EDEN and all the so called expert in Inidan Cricket were bundled with just 188 and that with a major cntribution from two men picked up by Sourav

Sachin is considered as the New Donbradman --- now question arises is this a simple hypocrisy or just the game plan of major advertising world as the Indian and the South Asian through the world are considered as the biggest watcher of cricket.

Lara just passed Border in getting highest run in Test Cricket-- where is Sachin--- lagging 1053 run-- GOD knows how long he would be able to come close to him-- yet Sachin is the GOD

Sachin scored 77 in his last 7 match--- is this a sign of a formed Batsman and that of his class and if not the if Sourav is asked back to regain his form from first class test, then why Sachin not -- same is true for Shewag and I hope there would be a new name with in a few months-- the so called Rahul &quot;Dependable&quot; &quot;Wall&quot; Dravid if he continues to lead the team-- Eden is the morning of the day---

Sourav was said to be jelous of Sachin and never used his bowling capacity-- what Rahul is doing now---

Most unfortunate thing in Indian Cricket is the flow of so much money it is harming more than helping as people are trying to go the top position to fill up their pocket and don&#039;t think of indian Team at all-- wheether it IS Mr. Dalmiya or Mr Binda-- Anti Dalmiya gave green top to Sourav and Anti Pawar or rather Anti ANTISOURAV Eden gave the Green top to Rahul--

It is an open secret that not a single Indian shows so far constant good performance on Green Top, it is not just because they can not play  but rather it is because they have been born and brought on a pitch favored to Batsman or Spinners---

It is surprising that we guys talked so much about our failure on green top -- but no one talks about our strength on Spinning top We feel ashamed on bieng weak on Green Top but tell how many western cricketers or Cricket lovers thing the same when one after another their heroes failed against Spin-- is this a hypocrisy or just a true color being Indian who love to stab their back always rather than by their enemy-- we blame Mirjafar for helping East India Company against Siraj-- but I think it is a sheer biased opinion as it looks like true Indian colour--sorry to say this--whether it is politics, sports or any other field (for Example Sonia dumped Natwar in the days&#039; of crisis for him as well as the Congress Party and now we can say she is our &quot;BETI&quot; (our own daughter), showing true Indian color-- different topic sorry to mention here, but could be a good example).




HATS OFF MY FELLOW INDIANs Keep it up-- definitely we would be the best if not already</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is something for you guys</p>
<p>People of Anti Sourav talked about green pitch top in Nagpur Test&#8212; IF YOU ARE STAYING IN A WORLD OF GLASS DON&#8217;T DARE TO THROW STONE TO OTHER AS IT WOULD COME BACK TO YOU&#8221;<br />
you guys gave green top in Nagpur we give you here in EDEN and all the so called expert in Inidan Cricket were bundled with just 188 and that with a major cntribution from two men picked up by Sourav</p>
<p>Sachin is considered as the New Donbradman &#8212; now question arises is this a simple hypocrisy or just the game plan of major advertising world as the Indian and the South Asian through the world are considered as the biggest watcher of cricket.</p>
<p>Lara just passed Border in getting highest run in Test Cricket&#8211; where is Sachin&#8212; lagging 1053 run&#8211; GOD knows how long he would be able to come close to him&#8211; yet Sachin is the GOD</p>
<p>Sachin scored 77 in his last 7 match&#8212; is this a sign of a formed Batsman and that of his class and if not the if Sourav is asked back to regain his form from first class test, then why Sachin not &#8212; same is true for Shewag and I hope there would be a new name with in a few months&#8211; the so called Rahul &#8220;Dependable&#8221; &#8220;Wall&#8221; Dravid if he continues to lead the team&#8211; Eden is the morning of the day&#8212;</p>
<p>Sourav was said to be jelous of Sachin and never used his bowling capacity&#8211; what Rahul is doing now&#8212;</p>
<p>Most unfortunate thing in Indian Cricket is the flow of so much money it is harming more than helping as people are trying to go the top position to fill up their pocket and don&#8217;t think of indian Team at all&#8211; wheether it IS Mr. Dalmiya or Mr Binda&#8211; Anti Dalmiya gave green top to Sourav and Anti Pawar or rather Anti ANTISOURAV Eden gave the Green top to Rahul&#8211;</p>
<p>It is an open secret that not a single Indian shows so far constant good performance on Green Top, it is not just because they can not play  but rather it is because they have been born and brought on a pitch favored to Batsman or Spinners&#8212;</p>
<p>It is surprising that we guys talked so much about our failure on green top &#8212; but no one talks about our strength on Spinning top We feel ashamed on bieng weak on Green Top but tell how many western cricketers or Cricket lovers thing the same when one after another their heroes failed against Spin&#8211; is this a hypocrisy or just a true color being Indian who love to stab their back always rather than by their enemy&#8211; we blame Mirjafar for helping East India Company against Siraj&#8211; but I think it is a sheer biased opinion as it looks like true Indian colour&#8211;sorry to say this&#8211;whether it is politics, sports or any other field (for Example Sonia dumped Natwar in the days&#8217; of crisis for him as well as the Congress Party and now we can say she is our &#8220;BETI&#8221; (our own daughter), showing true Indian color&#8211; different topic sorry to mention here, but could be a good example).</p>
<p>HATS OFF MY FELLOW INDIANs Keep it up&#8211; definitely we would be the best if not already</p>
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		<title>By: greaterbong</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2005/10/29/die-sourav-die/#comment-1631</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 06:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indian - there is only one way your statement can be interpreted. The interpretation doesn&#039;t make me happy - but I read and interpret English statements according to the rules of English grammar. May be you were following some other grammer !!

The point about Sehwag is not hypothetical - Sehwag did come out publicly in support of Saurav before the Chappell controversy broke out. BTW - how do you know Ganguly faked injuries? Did you do the MRI scan or were you standing beside the nets? Or you have another &quot;interpretation&quot; for this hypothesis too ??

Given the way Bhajji was treated by PCA and the Board the only conclusion I have is that others were scared to openly support Saurav. I can&#039;t find no other explanation for players who - till about a couple of months ago acknowledged Ganguly&#039;s contribution - completely clamming up.

Contrary to what you are trying to prove - you started it buddy. If I had told you to shut up - it was to you alone - not to any community. You could have responded to me instead of making the stupid remarks about Bengali pronunciation and graffiti in Kolkata streets. That was what started this debate. Not my post. I have said many times before - you get as good as you give. 

I have said enough.Hope you will understand. If not - continue your anti-Bengali diatribe if that makes you happy.  Namaste mr fake-indian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indian &#8211; there is only one way your statement can be interpreted. The interpretation doesn&#8217;t make me happy &#8211; but I read and interpret English statements according to the rules of English grammar. May be you were following some other grammer !!</p>
<p>The point about Sehwag is not hypothetical &#8211; Sehwag did come out publicly in support of Saurav before the Chappell controversy broke out. BTW &#8211; how do you know Ganguly faked injuries? Did you do the MRI scan or were you standing beside the nets? Or you have another &#8220;interpretation&#8221; for this hypothesis too ??</p>
<p>Given the way Bhajji was treated by PCA and the Board the only conclusion I have is that others were scared to openly support Saurav. I can&#8217;t find no other explanation for players who &#8211; till about a couple of months ago acknowledged Ganguly&#8217;s contribution &#8211; completely clamming up.</p>
<p>Contrary to what you are trying to prove &#8211; you started it buddy. If I had told you to shut up &#8211; it was to you alone &#8211; not to any community. You could have responded to me instead of making the stupid remarks about Bengali pronunciation and graffiti in Kolkata streets. That was what started this debate. Not my post. I have said many times before &#8211; you get as good as you give. </p>
<p>I have said enough.Hope you will understand. If not &#8211; continue your anti-Bengali diatribe if that makes you happy.  Namaste mr fake-indian.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 05:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey north indian -- your post is a perfect example of why specimens like you are hated all over India. The Maharashtrians have started to kick you fellows out of Mumbai for conversting it from India&#039;s urbs prima to &quot;slums prima&quot;. Now you fellows are descending in hordes upon Bangalors like locusts and pulluting it. Soon Kannadigas would kick you back to the North Indian hell holes you belong to. So don&#039;t start this regional divide and respond to Arnab&#039;s original post. I have the same advise to Indian (who started this), another Indian and greaterbong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey north indian &#8212; your post is a perfect example of why specimens like you are hated all over India. The Maharashtrians have started to kick you fellows out of Mumbai for conversting it from India&#8217;s urbs prima to &#8220;slums prima&#8221;. Now you fellows are descending in hordes upon Bangalors like locusts and pulluting it. Soon Kannadigas would kick you back to the North Indian hell holes you belong to. So don&#8217;t start this regional divide and respond to Arnab&#8217;s original post. I have the same advise to Indian (who started this), another Indian and greaterbong.</p>
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		<title>By: DDirector</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>came here after a link from another of those so called holier than thou journalists of India - the most celebrated Prem panicker. Thankfully his blog is closing down soon.
Really liked your article. Will surely link it up from my blog. Gonna write sumthing about today&#039;s Eden ODI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>came here after a link from another of those so called holier than thou journalists of India &#8211; the most celebrated Prem panicker. Thankfully his blog is closing down soon.<br />
Really liked your article. Will surely link it up from my blog. Gonna write sumthing about today&#8217;s Eden ODI</p>
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		<title>By: Partha</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rupak they are still blaming dada,
 Now they (NON-BONGS) say its dada&#039;s curse that india cannot cross 200.

Last 2 months the way Sourav has been victimised i feel that 

&quot; dada kare to balatkar,
  baki sab kare to chamatkar&quot;

his feets are moving, and soon he will be back (159 today, 64/5). I have tremendous faith in my captain, he is the captain and the future for 2007. 

Arnab, great piece, a few more thing ganguly did as a captain,
1. never selected a player on regional basis. 
    - Yuvi, Kaif, Zaheer, Nehra, Laxman, Bhajji, Dhoni, Pathan I think all of them are from Bengal

2. always backed a player 
    - supported parthiv patel, even when india lost the sydney test just because of him
    - Bhajji, 2001 Ind-AUS in india, Laxman

3. I saw in one of the matches he hurling abuses to srinath, later this srinath said sourav was the best captain he played under.

4. For people who say based on current form he should be dropped, then drop sachin (unless for u morons he is god, i hardly remember after sarjah 97-98 when was the last time he won a match single handly, but he is GOD)

5. If current form is the merit then who deserves to be in the team?

6. A few people have the balls to wave his shirts and shout expletives at the 

 
Arnab , PROUD TO BE A BONG .. KEEP UP THE SPIRIT ..

EVERYTIME LET ME BE BORN AS A BONG .. AND EVERY TIME I SHALL CHEER FOR SOURAV .. HE IS &quot;THE CAPTAIN, THE WINNER&quot;, He is a tiger, a fighter, can fight his war alone. He is destined for success. He is not a wolf in the hide of a sheep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rupak they are still blaming dada,<br />
 Now they (NON-BONGS) say its dada&#8217;s curse that india cannot cross 200.</p>
<p>Last 2 months the way Sourav has been victimised i feel that </p>
<p>&#8221; dada kare to balatkar,<br />
  baki sab kare to chamatkar&#8221;</p>
<p>his feets are moving, and soon he will be back (159 today, 64/5). I have tremendous faith in my captain, he is the captain and the future for 2007. </p>
<p>Arnab, great piece, a few more thing ganguly did as a captain,<br />
1. never selected a player on regional basis.<br />
    &#8211; Yuvi, Kaif, Zaheer, Nehra, Laxman, Bhajji, Dhoni, Pathan I think all of them are from Bengal</p>
<p>2. always backed a player<br />
    &#8211; supported parthiv patel, even when india lost the sydney test just because of him<br />
    &#8211; Bhajji, 2001 Ind-AUS in india, Laxman</p>
<p>3. I saw in one of the matches he hurling abuses to srinath, later this srinath said sourav was the best captain he played under.</p>
<p>4. For people who say based on current form he should be dropped, then drop sachin (unless for u morons he is god, i hardly remember after sarjah 97-98 when was the last time he won a match single handly, but he is GOD)</p>
<p>5. If current form is the merit then who deserves to be in the team?</p>
<p>6. A few people have the balls to wave his shirts and shout expletives at the </p>
<p>Arnab , PROUD TO BE A BONG .. KEEP UP THE SPIRIT ..</p>
<p>EVERYTIME LET ME BE BORN AS A BONG .. AND EVERY TIME I SHALL CHEER FOR SOURAV .. HE IS &#8220;THE CAPTAIN, THE WINNER&#8221;, He is a tiger, a fighter, can fight his war alone. He is destined for success. He is not a wolf in the hide of a sheep.</p>
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