Comments on: The Death of Honesty http://greatbong.net/2005/11/22/the-death-of-honesty/ Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:38:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Raman Mattoo http://greatbong.net/2005/11/22/the-death-of-honesty/#comment-852106 Raman Mattoo Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:36:10 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=156#comment-852106 The status of our society is what the great Guru Dutt sang years ago"yeh basti hai murda parasto ki basti". i grieve for Manju and his family. The status of our society is what the great Guru Dutt sang years ago”yeh basti hai murda parasto ki basti”. i grieve for Manju and his family.

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]]> By: 4WD http://greatbong.net/2005/11/22/the-death-of-honesty/#comment-1937 4WD Sat, 26 Nov 2005 07:57:00 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=156#comment-1937 Yourfan ~ THink about it. How could he use collective protest in his place? About the difference between media in the west and media here... i dont know. I've never seen the media there. But i do know that some papers do follow cases. Look at express and Satyendra Dubey. Even today express has this story as pg 1 lead. Other papers have it too, but i get express at home, so i mention that. Yourfan ~ THink about it. How could he use collective protest in his place?

About the difference between media in the west and media here… i dont know. I’ve never seen the media there. But i do know that some papers do follow cases. Look at express and Satyendra Dubey. Even today express has this story as pg 1 lead. Other papers have it too, but i get express at home, so i mention that.

]]> By: Neela http://greatbong.net/2005/11/22/the-death-of-honesty/#comment-1936 Neela Sat, 26 Nov 2005 00:18:00 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=156#comment-1936 Your dad was a prof at IIMC? Was he teaching 10 years ago? Which department? n! Your dad was a prof at IIMC? Was he teaching 10 years ago? Which department?

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]]> By: Ubermensch http://greatbong.net/2005/11/22/the-death-of-honesty/#comment-1935 Ubermensch Fri, 25 Nov 2005 23:29:00 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=156#comment-1935 Great blog!Very moving Great blog!Very moving

]]> By: Ubermensch http://greatbong.net/2005/11/22/the-death-of-honesty/#comment-1934 Ubermensch Fri, 25 Nov 2005 23:27:00 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=156#comment-1934 This post has been removed by the author. This post has been removed by the author.

]]> By: yourfan http://greatbong.net/2005/11/22/the-death-of-honesty/#comment-1933 yourfan Fri, 25 Nov 2005 17:34:00 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=156#comment-1933 @4WD: You have written “He did his job. Few people do that in the face of such danger. I salute him. I wish i could be more like him. I wish i had the conviction. Like you said your father did.” Of course I salute him. But I would like to mention here that a lot of other people also have convictions. But convictions alone won’t change our society for the better. I think convictions should always go hand in hand with prudence of using collective (not single handed) protest or fight against crime (the point that I have mentioned in my earlier comment on this article). Since you have said that you are a reporter- I have a question to you. Why is it that our media usually do not follow up the ‘stories’ (unless of course it is a case like Salem/Monica) like they do in say US/UK? In US/UK the media relentlessly pursue the case till the criminals get what they deserve. What usually happens in India is that after a few days media allows the public to forget the issue (by not following it up) and thus the so called pressure of public opinion fades away – the only people who don’t forget is the victim’s family, friends and colleagues. So I think in this age, media (visual and print) has an enormous role to play in building public opinion, awareness and of course public convictions. @4WD: You have written “He did his job. Few people do that in the face of such danger. I salute him. I wish i could be more like him. I wish i had the conviction. Like you said your father did.” Of course I salute him. But I would like to mention here that a lot of other people also have convictions. But convictions alone won’t change our society for the better. I think convictions should always go hand in hand with prudence of using collective (not single handed) protest or fight against crime (the point that I have mentioned in my earlier comment on this article).

Since you have said that you are a reporter- I have a question to you. Why is it that our media usually do not follow up the ‘stories’ (unless of course it is a case like Salem/Monica) like they do in say US/UK? In US/UK the media relentlessly pursue the case till the criminals get what they deserve. What usually happens in India is that after a few days media allows the public to forget the issue (by not following it up) and thus the so called pressure of public opinion fades away – the only people who don’t forget is the victim’s family, friends and colleagues. So I think in this age, media (visual and print) has an enormous role to play in building public opinion, awareness and of course public convictions.

]]> By: eV http://greatbong.net/2005/11/22/the-death-of-honesty/#comment-1932 eV Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:27:00 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=156#comment-1932 Every once in a while, a Satyendra Dubey or a Manjunath happens. And in a perverse sort of way, their deaths are cited as excuses to justify the "petty corruption" we all indulge in. Couldnt we channel our energies to keep up the pressure on the law machinery & media to mete out justice swiftly? We owe at least that to Manju. Every once in a while, a Satyendra Dubey or a Manjunath happens. And in a perverse sort of way, their deaths are cited as excuses to justify the “petty corruption” we all indulge in. Couldnt we channel our energies to keep up the pressure on the law machinery & media to mete out justice swiftly? We owe at least that to Manju.

]]> By: 4WD http://greatbong.net/2005/11/22/the-death-of-honesty/#comment-1931 4WD Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:46:00 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=156#comment-1931 Bong. I think you got it slightly wrong. First off : Express was not the only paper to carry it. If i'm not mistaken, The Telegraph had it the a couple of days before, as a flier. Also, the night before express carried the flier, tv channels were already running the story. Its just that express had a better, more visible story. Second : Everyone has their baggage. I know you do too. I've personally been in trouble with the *authorities* for wanting to do things right. If you don't want to do it, thats all right, i respect that. But don't tell someone else that its better to pipe down. What do you do for a living? (i'm seriously, just asking). What would you do in such a situation? Pipe down, let it go? What are you going to say next? Don't join the army, you'll get killed? I personally have issues with the army, but I respect any man/woman that joins the forces for what he/she believes in. What really scares me (and this is where i think you really really got it wrong), this man was killed for DOING HIS JOB. It could be me next. Really it could, i could be working in UP next year. What would i have done in a similar situation? As a reporter, its very possible that i might face something similar. I dont know. I might pipe down. I hope i have the courage to stand up. And i'm sorry, but the 17 year old idealist, while not most eloquent, had a point. Do you know how much media pressure there will be on the UP Govt to do something now? If only the local media carried it as a single column (as it was first carried) who would have cared. Now five people are arrested, with their faces on TV. If the UP govt does not carry this thru (its still possible, they might not) think about how the media will react. He did his job. Few people do that in the face of such danger. I salute him. I wish i could be more like him. I wish i had the conviction. Like you said you father did. And the media's job, is not to entertain you. It may happen very often, but if thats what you really want, stick to zoom and rouge :) peace out. Bong. I think you got it slightly wrong.

First off : Express was not the only paper to carry it. If i’m not mistaken, The Telegraph had it the a couple of days before, as a flier. Also, the night before express carried the flier, tv channels were already running the story. Its just that express had a better, more visible story.

Second : Everyone has their baggage. I know you do too. I’ve personally been in trouble with the *authorities* for wanting to do things right. If you don’t want to do it, thats all right, i respect that. But don’t tell someone else that its better to pipe down.

What do you do for a living? (i’m seriously, just asking). What would you do in such a situation? Pipe down, let it go?

What are you going to say next? Don’t join the army, you’ll get killed? I personally have issues with the army, but I respect any man/woman that joins the forces for what he/she believes in.

What really scares me (and this is where i think you really really got it wrong), this man was killed for DOING HIS JOB. It could be me next. Really it could, i could be working in UP next year. What would i have done in a similar situation? As a reporter, its very possible that i might face something similar. I dont know. I might pipe down. I hope i have the courage to stand up.

And i’m sorry, but the 17 year old idealist, while not most eloquent, had a point. Do you know how much media pressure there will be on the UP Govt to do something now? If only the local media carried it as a single column (as it was first carried) who would have cared. Now five people are arrested, with their faces on TV. If the UP govt does not carry this thru (its still possible, they might not) think about how the media will react.

He did his job. Few people do that in the face of such danger. I salute him. I wish i could be more like him. I wish i had the conviction. Like you said you father did.

And the media’s job, is not to entertain you. It may happen very often, but if thats what you really want, stick to zoom and rouge :)

peace out.

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