Comments on: And Now It’s 49.5% http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/ Wed, 23 May 2012 05:13:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Siddhartha Prakash http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-853697 Siddhartha Prakash Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:48:58 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-853697 I guess no one above has read the complete report of the Mandal Comission. He recommended a number of things like hostel facilitie, scholarships and inclusive growth schemes for the OBCs. Alas Congress chose only the reservation as it was easiest to implement and easiest to 'sell' to the electorate. Selective implementation of Mandal Comission report ensured that the caste in India is going to remain alive for at least 50 more years. I recommend everyone to read the book 'A commentary on(against) reservation" by Arun Shourie where he has examined in detail why it was abolished in 1931 (too difficult, people were moving across castes a phenomal rate that it was driving the census team mad), what was the caste mobility at the time (census team had been informing time and again that people were very fast in declaring themselves upper and it took only 8-9 years for the trend to get established (contrast with groups today rallying to declare themselves backward). The most striking thing the book reveals is how it became possible to extend reservation from class to caste (constitution originally identified only class, not caste), from reservation in opportunity to reservation in jobs to reservation in promotion to reservation in every level of any government organization to reservation in education to reservation in all groups of education (graduation, post graduation, doctorate, etc). It was just 2-3 judges who made almost all these judgments which banished generations of 'upper caste' to frustration for eternity and more importantly to forced knowledge of caste. The first time I came to know about caste was when I appeared in my Engg entrance (about how 500 seats doesn't really mean 500 for 'us'). Since then it has been an ever increasing frustration for being 'upper' caste. Equally severe has been my sorrow on seing my close friends whose caste became disclosed when they had to 'explain' that though they got only 75% in CAT they were getting admission in IIM, or the so easily discernible marks distribution in the class. The bottom 50% were generally the quota students. I wanted to go to my village (where caste difference is reality) and be a tyrant to the 'lower' caste people to 'correct' the wrong on my 'upper caste' for three generations (post 1950), really!!! But I chose to move to U.S. for this single reason that I don't want my progeny to ever feel the same frustration because I know for sure that by the time he/she is writing their Entrance for Engg, reservation would have moved to 75-80% (effectively 90-95%) and the Engg Drawing class will be full of X% SCs, X%STs, X%OBCs, X%Super OBCs, X% Muslims, X% Christians(converts who couldn't change their caste by changing religion, X%defence, X% physically disabled, X%mentally disabled, X%Professors, X%Netas. I guess I did the right thing. I guess no one above has read the complete report of the Mandal Comission. He recommended a number of things like hostel facilitie, scholarships and inclusive growth schemes for the OBCs. Alas Congress chose only the reservation as it was easiest to implement and easiest to ‘sell’ to the electorate.
Selective implementation of Mandal Comission report ensured that the caste in India is going to remain alive for at least 50 more years.

I recommend everyone to read the book ‘A commentary on(against) reservation” by Arun Shourie where he has examined in detail why it was abolished in 1931 (too difficult, people were moving across castes a phenomal rate that it was driving the census team mad), what was the caste mobility at the time (census team had been informing time and again that people were very fast in declaring themselves upper and it took only 8-9 years for the trend to get established (contrast with groups today rallying to declare themselves backward).
The most striking thing the book reveals is how it became possible to extend reservation from class to caste (constitution originally identified only class, not caste), from reservation in opportunity to reservation in jobs to reservation in promotion to reservation in every level of any government organization to reservation in education to reservation in all groups of education (graduation, post graduation, doctorate, etc). It was just 2-3 judges who made almost all these judgments which banished generations of ‘upper caste’ to frustration for eternity and more importantly to forced knowledge of caste.
The first time I came to know about caste was when I appeared in my Engg entrance (about how 500 seats doesn’t really mean 500 for ‘us’). Since then it has been an ever increasing frustration for being ‘upper’ caste. Equally severe has been my sorrow on seing my close friends whose caste became disclosed when they had to ‘explain’ that though they got only 75% in CAT they were getting admission in IIM, or the so easily discernible marks distribution in the class. The bottom 50% were generally the quota students.
I wanted to go to my village (where caste difference is reality) and be a tyrant to the ‘lower’ caste people to ‘correct’ the wrong on my ‘upper caste’ for three generations (post 1950), really!!!
But I chose to move to U.S. for this single reason that I don’t want my progeny to ever feel the same frustration because I know for sure that by the time he/she is writing their Entrance for Engg, reservation would have moved to 75-80% (effectively 90-95%) and the Engg Drawing class will be full of X% SCs, X%STs, X%OBCs, X%Super OBCs, X% Muslims, X% Christians(converts who couldn’t change their caste by changing religion, X%defence, X% physically disabled, X%mentally disabled, X%Professors, X%Netas.
I guess I did the right thing.

]]> By: tornei di poker on line http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-562860 tornei di poker on line Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:34:07 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-562860 <strong>poker sportivo online...</strong> Estos tornei di poker on line 888 poker roulette com set de poker poker caribe portal web... poker sportivo online…

Estos tornei di poker on line 888 poker roulette com set de poker poker caribe portal web…

]]> By: satya chatterjee http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-540871 satya chatterjee Mon, 12 May 2008 01:27:46 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-540871 enough discussion about iits. I know engineers who was admitted to iits but decided to puruse their engineering degree at non iit colleges. All of them are highly placed in their profession rignt now. enough discussion about iits. I know engineers who was admitted to iits but decided to puruse their engineering degree at non iit colleges. All of them are highly placed in their profession rignt now.

]]> By: verizon real ringtones free real ringtones for verizon verizon ringtones http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-426633 verizon real ringtones free real ringtones for verizon verizon ringtones Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:46:26 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-426633 <strong>mp3 ringtones for treo 650 free free mp3 ringtones...</strong> Call download free ringtones verizon get free ringtones for my cell phone... mp3 ringtones for treo 650 free free mp3 ringtones…

Call download free ringtones verizon get free ringtones for my cell phone…

]]> By: Sujai http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-415805 Sujai Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:10:32 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-415805 Liked many of your blogs. You have good sense of humor. I agree with many of your messages. Disagree here. I support reservations based on caste and also find Medha Patkar's fights nonsensical. I disagree that reservations are purely a political construct. Liked many of your blogs. You have good sense of humor. I agree with many of your messages.

Disagree here. I support reservations based on caste and also find Medha Patkar’s fights nonsensical.

I disagree that reservations are purely a political construct.

]]> By: Chatterji http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-295351 Chatterji Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:47:52 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-295351 I remember an SC IAS officer wrote a huge centre page article in HT about the increasing need for reservations (or the need of increasing reservations :)). He eloquently gave the example that no Brahmin man will marry his daughters to his SC sons. I suppose a certain % of Brahmin girls need to be "reserved" to only marry SC/ST/OBC men! I willingly put myself forward for this venture. It will be good for my kids to have an SC/ST father in India. I remember an SC IAS officer wrote a huge centre page article in HT about the increasing need for reservations (or the need of increasing reservations :) ). He eloquently gave the example that no Brahmin man will marry his daughters to his SC sons. I suppose a certain % of Brahmin girls need to be “reserved” to only marry SC/ST/OBC men!

I willingly put myself forward for this venture. It will be good for my kids to have an SC/ST father in India.

]]> By: Anon Coward n I know Rahul http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-230645 Anon Coward n I know Rahul Sun, 20 May 2007 18:43:59 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-230645 Hi, I jus thot mebbe U shud chk this out: http://rahulkanvinde.blogspot.com P.S.: Coz rahul wud proly not PR for himself :P Hi,

I jus thot mebbe U shud chk this out:

http://rahulkanvinde.blogspot.com

P.S.: Coz rahul wud proly not PR for himself :P

]]> By: vrutika patel http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-178497 vrutika patel Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:18:34 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-178497 hi, i m vrutika.my age is 25 years .i cann't study after 10thstandard due to some economic condition.now i want to study further.can u give me some information about entrance exam for further study after 10th standard .mostly i want information about bachlor of engineering.please i have needed so please reply me as early as possible thanks for reading my massage. hi,
i m vrutika.my age is 25 years .i cann’t study after 10thstandard due to some economic condition.now i want to study further.can u give me some information about entrance exam for further study after 10th standard .mostly i want information about bachlor of engineering.please i have needed so please reply me as early as possible

thanks for reading my massage.

]]> By: pooja singh http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-56082 pooja singh Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:16:48 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-56082 iam extremely not in the favour of reservation.because it weakens ones ability to fight and makes one to loose their hope to raise.survival of the fittest is my view pooja singh iam extremely not in the favour of reservation.because it weakens ones ability to fight and makes one to loose their hope to raise.survival of the fittest is my view
pooja singh

]]> By: Barbarindian http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-6968 Barbarindian Thu, 11 May 2006 16:42:55 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/04/13/and-now-its-495/#comment-6968 Please check out the lies the communists are spinning in my blog. Please check out the lies the communists are spinning in my blog.

]]>