Comments on: The Concept of Equality http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/ Wed, 23 May 2012 05:13:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Perception of Women http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-542928 Perception of Women Fri, 16 May 2008 19:26:51 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-542928 [...] a few differing opinions. I couldn’t get down to actually voicing them because by then the comment box had diverted to other pressing matters such as defining [...] [...] a few differing opinions. I couldn’t get down to actually voicing them because by then the comment box had diverted to other pressing matters such as defining [...]

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]]> By: Women, Army and Who Needs Who? at Retributions http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-14123 Women, Army and Who Needs Who? at Retributions Fri, 21 Jul 2006 02:21:47 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-14123 [...] In a lovely piece Greatbong shows the blatantly sexist assumptions Annie had made while countering Shravan’s  arguments. [...] [...] In a lovely piece Greatbong shows the blatantly sexist assumptions Annie had made while countering Shravan’s  arguments. [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-13508 Anonymous Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:13:45 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-13508 I agree with you that there are double standards for men and women in society. However, the double standards are not created _due_ to feminism; they existed before feminism, and they still exist. The context matters. Men are still more powerful in terms of money, power,etc and have less responsibility for kids. The double standards you mention also work both ways, you know. Hopefully with time these double standards would go away. An analogy would be the civil Rights and Hollywood. If you look at pre-civil right movies, almost all black characters were slaves. After the civil rights, it suddenly became very politically incorrect to have a black man as a villian in a movie. But now, it does not matter any more. I agree with you that there are double standards for men and women in society. However, the double standards are not created _due_ to feminism; they existed before feminism, and they still exist. The context matters. Men are still more powerful in terms of money, power,etc and have less responsibility for kids. The double standards you mention also work both ways, you know.

Hopefully with time these double standards would go away. An analogy would be the civil Rights and Hollywood. If you look at pre-civil right movies, almost all black characters were slaves. After the civil rights, it suddenly became very politically incorrect to have a black man as a villian in a movie. But now, it does not matter any more.

]]> By: LittleDauphin http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-12737 LittleDauphin Sat, 08 Jul 2006 06:21:59 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-12737 Great Bong, I will try for last time. You said - >I still maintain that "wrestling with a pig gets you >covered with mud" is not tantamount to calling someone >a pig That, in other words, is to say that "if it is an insult by somebody I do not want to criticice, I will just not call it an insult." You did not do the same as on Deth Ends Fun. You know it. That's all from me. Great Bong, I will try for last time.

You said –

>I still maintain that “wrestling with a pig gets you
>covered with mud” is not tantamount to calling someone
>a pig

That, in other words, is to say that “if it is an insult by somebody I do not want to criticice, I will just not call it an insult.”

You did not do the same as on Deth Ends Fun. You know it. That’s all from me.

]]> By: shadows http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-12600 shadows Fri, 07 Jul 2006 07:23:49 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-12600 @Shadows: Dilip’s political leanings are not relevant to the post and I would appreciate if you left it out of the discussion. ===== Arre GreatBong, they are. :) Indirectly though. Just the fact that he is a commie means - the opposite of his views is the right thing. :D @Shadows: Dilip’s political leanings are not relevant to the post and I would appreciate if you left it out of the discussion.

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Arre GreatBong, they are. :) Indirectly though. Just the fact that he is a commie means – the opposite of his views is the right thing. :D

]]> By: dipanjan http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-12570 dipanjan Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:48:32 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-12570 Not giving up on beating the RDB thread's record yet :). @froginthewall - You misread the analogy. I wasn't comparing neo-KKK with male. I was comparing the difference in magnitude of my <i>personal</i> negative reactions to neo-KKK and neo-Rastafarians to a similar difference in my negative reactions to male-chauvinism and female-chauvinism. I think historical precedence as well as the current institutional power structure explains that difference, but I am not at all sure if that justifies it. There is a real possibility that muted reactions can promote an ideology of reverse-racism and reverse-sexism. On the other hand, equally strong negative reactions can at times come across as harsh over-reactions and might ignore historical reality. Logically I agree with everything GB has said in his post and the comments. But when I had originally read AZ's post from desipundit link, the quoted sections did not provoke as strong a negative reaction as what evidently triggered GB to write about it. I mostly ignored those sections and focused on the rest of her article. In my first comment, I was trying to think about why I reacted that way and the questions were not meant to be rhetorical. Not giving up on beating the RDB thread’s record yet :) .

@froginthewall – You misread the analogy. I wasn’t comparing neo-KKK with male. I was comparing the difference in magnitude of my personal negative reactions to neo-KKK and neo-Rastafarians to a similar difference in my negative reactions to male-chauvinism and female-chauvinism.

I think historical precedence as well as the current institutional power structure explains that difference, but I am not at all sure if that justifies it. There is a real possibility that muted reactions can promote an ideology of reverse-racism and reverse-sexism. On the other hand, equally strong negative reactions can at times come across as harsh over-reactions and might ignore historical reality.

Logically I agree with everything GB has said in his post and the comments. But when I had originally read AZ’s post from desipundit link, the quoted sections did not provoke as strong a negative reaction as what evidently triggered GB to write about it. I mostly ignored those sections and focused on the rest of her article. In my first comment, I was trying to think about why I reacted that way and the questions were not meant to be rhetorical.

]]> By: greatbong http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-12438 greatbong Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:06:07 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-12438 @Shadows: Dilip's political leanings are not relevant to the post and I would appreciate if you left it out of the discussion. @Shadows: Dilip’s political leanings are not relevant to the post and I would appreciate if you left it out of the discussion.

]]> By: shadows http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-12433 shadows Wed, 05 Jul 2006 10:30:03 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-12433 http://dcubed.blogspot.com/2006/07/just-another-suicide.html Hey guys, more dope on Dilip. Its clear whose side his loyalties lie. In that above link, dilip links to http://www.himalmag.com/ The catch -- the Himal magazine is an outrightly Maoist propaganda magazine !!! http://dcubed.blogspot.com/2006/07/just-another-suicide.html

Hey guys, more dope on Dilip. Its clear whose side his loyalties lie. In that above link, dilip links to http://www.himalmag.com/

The catch — the Himal magazine is an outrightly Maoist propaganda magazine !!!

]]> By: shadows http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-12432 shadows Wed, 05 Jul 2006 10:28:32 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2006/06/27/the-concept-of-equality/#comment-12432 <a href="http://dcubed.blogspot.com/2006/07/just-another-suicide.html" rel="nofollow">http://dcubed.blogspot.com/2006/07/just-another-suicide.html</a> Hey guys, more dope on Dilip. Its clear whose side his loyalties lie. In that above link, dilip links to <a href="http://www.himalmag.com/" rel="nofollow">Himal</a> The catch -- the Himal magazine is an outrightly Maoist propaganda magazine !!! http://dcubed.blogspot.com/2006/07/just-another-suicide.html

Hey guys, more dope on Dilip. Its clear whose side his loyalties lie. In that above link, dilip links to Himal

The catch — the Himal magazine is an outrightly Maoist propaganda magazine !!!

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