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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2006/09/06/vande-mataram/#comment-941441</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me the &quot;vande mataram&quot; debate rings eerily similar to the removal of school prayer,  nativity scenes and &quot;Merry Christmas&quot; in USA. 

I was seeing a NDTV program where a Imam was saying that worshipping a female figure, or equating land to &quot;Mother&quot; is blasphemous according to koran, hence the protest. 

So, All the muslim freedom fighters who chanted the song were not devout enough compared to the current crop, I guess.  What a load of BS.

Okay, So anyone who is offended by it can stay silent, but that&#039;s where their rights end and my rights to sing it  begins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me the &#8220;vande mataram&#8221; debate rings eerily similar to the removal of school prayer,  nativity scenes and &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221; in USA. </p>
<p>I was seeing a NDTV program where a Imam was saying that worshipping a female figure, or equating land to &#8220;Mother&#8221; is blasphemous according to koran, hence the protest. </p>
<p>So, All the muslim freedom fighters who chanted the song were not devout enough compared to the current crop, I guess.  What a load of BS.</p>
<p>Okay, So anyone who is offended by it can stay silent, but that&#8217;s where their rights end and my rights to sing it  begins.</p>
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		<title>By: yogi</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2006/09/06/vande-mataram/#comment-680036</link>
		<dc:creator>yogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do all these MFs song supporters know the song by heart? or they support it (just like those muzzies opposing it) just cause they want to?

I want to ask the idiots like sohpo.. , did you know the full song before the controvery broke out? Hell then why didn&#039;t you raise the issue few years ago? 

As for the muzzies opposing it- when you @$$holes can mumble any reshamiya shit without prompting, WTF are you opposing the NATIONAL song?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do all these MFs song supporters know the song by heart? or they support it (just like those muzzies opposing it) just cause they want to?</p>
<p>I want to ask the idiots like sohpo.. , did you know the full song before the controvery broke out? Hell then why didn&#8217;t you raise the issue few years ago? </p>
<p>As for the muzzies opposing it- when you @$$holes can mumble any reshamiya shit without prompting, WTF are you opposing the NATIONAL song?</p>
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		<title>By: ramesh</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2006/09/06/vande-mataram/#comment-583859</link>
		<dc:creator>ramesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really like the song its so rhythmic and very pleasant to here to give a strength of enurishment to me.

Well I agree with what you said with respect to nationalism over religion.Well as I was the original sender of the email asking you to write about the Vande Mataram controversy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really like the song its so rhythmic and very pleasant to here to give a strength of enurishment to me.</p>
<p>Well I agree with what you said with respect to nationalism over religion.Well as I was the original sender of the email asking you to write about the Vande Mataram controversy</p>
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		<title>By: ramesh</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2006/09/06/vande-mataram/#comment-583858</link>
		<dc:creator>ramesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i really like the song its so rhythmic and very pleasant to here to give a strength of enurishment to me.
Well I agree with what you said with respect to nationalism over religion.Well as I was the original sender of the email asking you to write about the Vande Mataram controversy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i really like the song its so rhythmic and very pleasant to here to give a strength of enurishment to me.<br />
Well I agree with what you said with respect to nationalism over religion.Well as I was the original sender of the email asking you to write about the Vande Mataram controversy</p>
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		<title>By: ankit</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2006/09/06/vande-mataram/#comment-27011</link>
		<dc:creator>ankit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just wanted to raise a question that what will happen if you all except vande matram. in my opinion there is a bigger thing in this world beyond religion-country and its symbols.it is given in every holy book that religion comes after nation and it is the duty of every gouge to obey the rules of nation and its symbols.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just wanted to raise a question that what will happen if you all except vande matram. in my opinion there is a bigger thing in this world beyond religion-country and its symbols.it is given in every holy book that religion comes after nation and it is the duty of every gouge to obey the rules of nation and its symbols.</p>
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		<title>By: Ranjan Chakravarty</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2006/09/06/vande-mataram/#comment-22947</link>
		<dc:creator>Ranjan Chakravarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 16:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey All:  Have you considered what wonders the culest dood Himessbhai Ressamiyya could do with this song?  The possibilities could be endless, like, &quot;Vande Maaaaaaaaaaa - aaaa, Sujhlaaajaaa,  ek baar Suflaajaaaa, Malayaajaaaa, Sheetalaajaa, Satyaajaa Shaamalaaajaa.... &quot;Hey, flame me on the Himesh thread! Hint, hint...:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey All:  Have you considered what wonders the culest dood Himessbhai Ressamiyya could do with this song?  The possibilities could be endless, like, &#8220;Vande Maaaaaaaaaaa &#8211; aaaa, Sujhlaaajaaa,  ek baar Suflaajaaaa, Malayaajaaaa, Sheetalaajaa, Satyaajaa Shaamalaaajaa&#8230;. &#8220;Hey, flame me on the Himesh thread! Hint, hint&#8230;:-)</p>
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		<title>By: swati</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2006/09/06/vande-mataram/#comment-22723</link>
		<dc:creator>swati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just wish instead of ALL-OF-US-SUPER-PATRIOTIC-INDIANS tunelessly warbling VM,

all of us simple indians had just ONE UNIFORM CIVIL CODE.

no rat of a politician is BRAVE-AND-PATRIOTIC enough to take up this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just wish instead of ALL-OF-US-SUPER-PATRIOTIC-INDIANS tunelessly warbling VM,</p>
<p>all of us simple indians had just ONE UNIFORM CIVIL CODE.</p>
<p>no rat of a politician is BRAVE-AND-PATRIOTIC enough to take up this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: arunavo chatterji</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2006/09/06/vande-mataram/#comment-22650</link>
		<dc:creator>arunavo chatterji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well as I was the original sender of the email asking you to write about the Vande Mataram controversy I think it is time I had a say too.I think the issue is not about an individuals religious freedom.I think it is about a self styled representative of a religion not only refusing to sing but asking his co religionists not to sing the song. I think it shows pan islamism as being above nationalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well as I was the original sender of the email asking you to write about the Vande Mataram controversy I think it is time I had a say too.I think the issue is not about an individuals religious freedom.I think it is about a self styled representative of a religion not only refusing to sing but asking his co religionists not to sing the song. I think it shows pan islamism as being above nationalism.</p>
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		<title>By: greatbong</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2006/09/06/vande-mataram/#comment-22008</link>
		<dc:creator>greatbong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I agree with what you said with respect to nationalism over religion. However the govt has no role in imposing that through a circular. Again I dont wish to go on debating this as I have moved on to other posts and I don&#039;t have much new to say...however Paul&#039;s &#039;misinterpretation&#039; of what I had said made me have to comment again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I agree with what you said with respect to nationalism over religion. However the govt has no role in imposing that through a circular. Again I dont wish to go on debating this as I have moved on to other posts and I don&#8217;t have much new to say&#8230;however Paul&#8217;s &#8216;misinterpretation&#8217; of what I had said made me have to comment again.</p>
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		<title>By: Nilesh</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2006/09/06/vande-mataram/#comment-22005</link>
		<dc:creator>Nilesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 04:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greatbong,

Let me start with saying that I totally agree with all that your post stands for.
However, may I have a clarification of your view regarding this

&#039;So why should we make anyone in India who thinks the song is against his religion sing it either?&#039;

As far as my opinion goes, 
1)I am against forcing it on somebody and completely for individual freedom. 
2)I also agree that the song is not the only mark of nationalism/patriotism.
3) But refusing to sing it citing religion disturbs me. I believe no religion(Hinduism, Islam, Christanity etc) should be,morally for now, allowed to trump nationalism. Legally, I dont know if anything should even be done about this and if yes, what.
4)At the same time, I still dont think that forcing the song because the reason given was &#039;religion&#039; is such a good idea.

It&#039;s just that I wouldnt be able to support such people and I will be alarmed by this trend, if any such trend should get established.

To summarise, no forcing ppl should happen- the reason being that its against basic individual freedom and not because some religions dont like it.

I hope I have managed to make myself clear.
Waiting for your view.

Nilesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greatbong,</p>
<p>Let me start with saying that I totally agree with all that your post stands for.<br />
However, may I have a clarification of your view regarding this</p>
<p>&#8216;So why should we make anyone in India who thinks the song is against his religion sing it either?&#8217;</p>
<p>As far as my opinion goes,<br />
1)I am against forcing it on somebody and completely for individual freedom.<br />
2)I also agree that the song is not the only mark of nationalism/patriotism.<br />
3) But refusing to sing it citing religion disturbs me. I believe no religion(Hinduism, Islam, Christanity etc) should be,morally for now, allowed to trump nationalism. Legally, I dont know if anything should even be done about this and if yes, what.<br />
4)At the same time, I still dont think that forcing the song because the reason given was &#8216;religion&#8217; is such a good idea.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that I wouldnt be able to support such people and I will be alarmed by this trend, if any such trend should get established.</p>
<p>To summarise, no forcing ppl should happen- the reason being that its against basic individual freedom and not because some religions dont like it.</p>
<p>I hope I have managed to make myself clear.<br />
Waiting for your view.</p>
<p>Nilesh</p>
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