Comments on: Who Bombed the Samjhauta Express? http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-bombed-the-samjhauta-express/ Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:38:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Monu http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-bombed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-149287 Monu Tue, 06 Mar 2007 04:49:31 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-derailed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-149287 Raghavan Datta....too good...great use of sarcastic humor Raghavan Datta….too good…great use of sarcastic humor

]]> By: Sayon http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-bombed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-140162 Sayon Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:36:38 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-derailed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-140162 @Rakesh: Who cares? We do. Next time we board a train or a plane, or visit a shrine, or wander near the Gateway of India, our number might be up. Not a reassuring thought, my friend! The greatest victim of terrorist attacks is the peace of mind in the country of the victims. That's exactly the aim of the terrorists - to tell their enemy that "No matter where you are, you are not safe, and your government cannot save you unless you give in to our demands." That's the very definition of terrorism. Of course, if you mean that who cares for the victims of a particular terrorist attack, you are right. We've got too used to these things happening again and again to feel the pain. A colleague of mine from the US wrote to express his sympathy for the victims of the attack. I didn't even know it had happened. @Rakesh: Who cares? We do. Next time we board a train or a plane, or visit a shrine, or wander near the Gateway of India, our number might be up. Not a reassuring thought, my friend!

The greatest victim of terrorist attacks is the peace of mind in the country of the victims. That’s exactly the aim of the terrorists – to tell their enemy that “No matter where you are, you are not safe, and your government cannot save you unless you give in to our demands.”

That’s the very definition of terrorism.

Of course, if you mean that who cares for the victims of a particular terrorist attack, you are right. We’ve got too used to these things happening again and again to feel the pain. A colleague of mine from the US wrote to express his sympathy for the victims of the attack. I didn’t even know it had happened.

]]> By: Rakesh http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-bombed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-139482 Rakesh Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:16:08 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-derailed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-139482 I think the bigger point is "who cares"? All of us pretend to be concerned about such disasters but the truth is we don't care. I admit the fact I don't care. It is not something that affected me. Whatever. I think the bigger point is “who cares”? All of us pretend to be concerned about such disasters but the truth is we don’t care.

I admit the fact I don’t care. It is not something that affected me. Whatever.

]]> By: Anonymous http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-bombed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-138085 Anonymous Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:25:33 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-derailed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-138085 Dear all, It is with a heavy heart that I write as the pakistani families of victims travelling by the Samjauta experiment have not gotten over the loss. All this blood just after the Nithari crisis, is too much for our soil to take as it screams out to God to take revenge on the killers. If the government and the law become impotent, and the media is only wagging their tails to the tune of the ruling parties where do the values India stands for and boasts about go? They make a silent exit from the back doors of our lives without our knowledge they r replaced by a cold and unconcerned apathy. We have become habituated to seeing all the blood and gore and our eyes have dried of tears. We can't shed any precious tears except till it reaches one of our kith and kin. Who sold the soul of India? Dear all,
It is with a heavy heart that I write as the pakistani families of victims travelling by the Samjauta experiment have not gotten over the loss. All this blood just after the Nithari crisis, is too much for our soil to take as it screams out to God to take revenge on the killers. If the government and the law become impotent, and the media is only wagging their tails to the tune of the ruling parties where do the values India stands for and boasts about go? They make a silent exit from the back doors of our lives without our knowledge they r replaced by a cold and unconcerned apathy. We have become habituated to seeing all the blood and gore and our eyes have dried of tears. We can’t shed any precious tears except till it reaches one of our kith and kin. Who sold the soul of India?

]]> By: Prasanna http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-bombed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-138022 Prasanna Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:19:08 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-derailed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-138022 In all the bytes that surround the tragedy , I was quite shocked to hear about one aspect of the whole tragedy, which has possibly been missed. The Samjhauta train, due to the 'sensitive'cargo it was carrying, has all it's windows and doors shut, and they cannot be opened from inside till it reaches a station. Effectively making it the easiest job in the world for woild be arsonists to cause mayhem. This shortsighted, ignorant and idiotic move by both the governments needs to be condemned. They may as well not run the train, if these are the horrific conditions people are going to be made to travel in. Hint: All the passengers in the Samjauta Express are typically poor, who cannot afford to fly into Pakistan the way their rulers can. In all the bytes that surround the tragedy , I was quite shocked to hear about one aspect of the whole tragedy, which has possibly been missed. The Samjhauta train, due to the ‘sensitive’cargo it was carrying, has all it’s windows and doors shut, and they cannot be opened from inside till it reaches a station. Effectively making it the easiest job in the world for woild be arsonists to cause mayhem.

This shortsighted, ignorant and idiotic move by both the governments needs to be condemned. They may as well not run the train, if these are the horrific conditions people are going to be made to travel in. Hint: All the passengers in the Samjauta Express are typically poor, who cannot afford to fly into Pakistan the way their rulers can.

]]> By: rishi http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-bombed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-137267 rishi Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:01:28 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-derailed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-137267 @Shadows you wrote: One more thing - Why Hindu Mahasabha was needed? Why in the 5000 years of our existence, did it come up only during Gandhi-Nehru glory days? It was a response to something (we all know that Something).. Rishi- The Hindu Mahasabha or similar groups were needed right from the time organized political parties came into existence in India. The day Hindus were intellectually, physically and politically able to come up with one they did. @Shadows

you wrote: One more thing – Why Hindu Mahasabha was needed? Why in the 5000 years of our existence, did it come up only during Gandhi-Nehru glory days? It was a response to something (we all know that Something)..

Rishi- The Hindu Mahasabha or similar groups were needed right from the time organized political parties came into existence in India. The day Hindus were intellectually, physically and politically able to come up with one they did.

]]> By: rishi http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-bombed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-137174 rishi Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:43:48 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-derailed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-137174 @shadows Agree the ballotization of Hindu revivalism was a outcome VHP's realization that they are powerless in the face fatwaa/decree/vote bank politics. Shah Bano was the final nail in the coffin. @shadows

Agree
the ballotization of Hindu revivalism was a outcome VHP’s realization that they are powerless in the face fatwaa/decree/vote bank politics.

Shah Bano was the final nail in the coffin.

]]> By: shadows http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-bombed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-137114 shadows Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:17:45 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-derailed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-137114 >>I disagree that popular Hindu Revivalism (many call it Hindu Fascism, Modism…etc..etc depending on their p-secness) is a post-Ayodhya phenomenon. @ Rishi, What I meant was that it did not have much support before the 90s. The voting patterns reveal that. They never had much public support earlier. One more thing - Why Hindu Mahasabha was needed? Why in the 5000 years of our existence, did it come up only during Gandhi-Nehru glory days? It was a response to something (we all know that Something).. The saffron parivar that exists today are all offshoots of that Mahasabha. >>I disagree that popular Hindu Revivalism (many call it Hindu Fascism, Modism…etc..etc depending on their p-secness)
is a post-Ayodhya phenomenon.

@ Rishi,

What I meant was that it did not have much support before the 90s. The voting patterns reveal that. They never had much public support earlier.

One more thing – Why Hindu Mahasabha was needed? Why in the 5000 years of our existence, did it come up only during Gandhi-Nehru glory days? It was a response to something (we all know that Something)..

The saffron parivar that exists today are all offshoots of that Mahasabha.

]]> By: rishi http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-bombed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-137079 rishi Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:50:35 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-derailed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-137079 Sorry typo.. meant "green aadaabs" in my previous post Sorry typo.. meant “green aadaabs” in my previous post

]]> By: rishi http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-bombed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-137064 rishi Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:36:02 +0000 http://greatbong.net/2007/02/21/who-derailed-the-samjhauta-express/#comment-137064 @ shadows and others Your frustration is understandable, especially the eternal search for "moral equivalence" vis-a-vis every mindblowing and bodyblowing action of the followers of Islam. But I dont think GB is guilty of that. You wrote, "We only talk, but do not defend ourselves effectively". I look forward to your thoughts and participation (within our limited means) on how the effectiveness can be increased. I disagree that popular Hindu Revivalism (many call it Hindu Fascism, Modism...etc..etc depending on their p-secness) is a post-Ayodhya phenomenon. In fact Ayodhya movement itself owes its existance to some mindboggling cross-sect work done by Master Tara Singh (Akali) Swami Chinamayanand Arya Samaj RSS In Bengal, Bankim Chandra Chatterjee, Sri Aurobindo to some degree and Shyama Prasad Mookherjee in full regalia can be given the credit for that. The communists in Bengal should actually thank Hindu Mahasabha and Shyama Prasad Mookherjee for their existance. Because without Hindu Mahasabha, the entire Bengal Province (without Purulia and Midnapore) would have become part of Islamic East Pakistan. And instead of "Lal Selaam" our comrades would have been giving "greed Aadaabs". If you wish to communicate with me personally you can contact me at rishi_khujur@rediffmail.com @ shadows and others

Your frustration is understandable, especially the eternal search for “moral equivalence” vis-a-vis every mindblowing and bodyblowing action of the followers of Islam.

But I dont think GB is guilty of that.

You wrote, “We only talk, but do not defend ourselves effectively”.

I look forward to your thoughts and participation (within our limited means) on how the effectiveness can be increased.

I disagree that popular Hindu Revivalism (many call it Hindu Fascism, Modism…etc..etc depending on their p-secness)
is a post-Ayodhya phenomenon.

In fact Ayodhya movement itself owes its existance to some mindboggling cross-sect work done by

Master Tara Singh (Akali)
Swami Chinamayanand
Arya Samaj
RSS

In Bengal, Bankim Chandra Chatterjee, Sri Aurobindo to some degree and Shyama Prasad Mookherjee in full regalia can be given the credit for that.

The communists in Bengal should actually thank Hindu Mahasabha and Shyama Prasad Mookherjee for their existance.

Because without Hindu Mahasabha, the entire Bengal Province (without Purulia and Midnapore) would have become part of Islamic East Pakistan.

And instead of “Lal Selaam” our comrades would have been giving “greed Aadaabs”.

If you wish to communicate with me personally you can contact me at rishi_khujur@rediffmail.com

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