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This isn’t the first time I am reading your posts, but it’s the first time I am leaving a reply.
I agree with you on the point that Indians aren’t the only hypocrits. Hypocrisy is universal, maybe the reasons/excuses of being hypocrits differ. Whether it’s U.S, Europe or anywhere else in the world; Hypocrisy is a quality that is not restricted by any culture.

Well written article!

I had sent this comment earlier, but as it may have got stuck, am re-sending.

I am back after a week long business trip over South England. I noted significant changes since my last trip :

(1) The ethnic mix of certain areas is metamorphosised. It is really scary.

My cousin lives in Shepherds Bush (London). On my first visit there 15 years ago, a few Arab men were strolling the streets. 5 years later, 10% of the shops were Arab owned, & 10% of the folk were head-to-toe burkhaed Arab women behind … prams. This time, I was shocked to see 75%, yes seventy-five percent of the shops were owned by Arabs & Turks. It is chilling.

Same for Southall, where my wife’s best friend & her husband (a very decent Pakistani family) live. On my first visit to Southall as a child (2 decades back), 95% were Sikhs. On my visit this time, 40% are Pakistani, 15% African-Muslim (Somali), 5% Bosnian / Albanian / God knows what (but Muslim). Sikhs appear to be reduced to 40%.

Places in East London like Eastham now resemble nothing short of a gentrified (sic) Dhaka. My cousin & British friends inform me this is the trend over the UK, & it is far worse in getting far worse in North England (Manchester, Birmingham & Bradford).

On the other hand, native resentment is nearing boiling point. I took 15 cab-trips, of which 4 were Pakistani drivers. All the others, all 11 of the others, without fail, soon asked if I was Indian or Pakistani (or Hindu or Muslim). As soon as I said Hindu, what would follow for the entire trip was a relentless, pauseless no holds barred harangue by the drivers against the “religion of piece”. About how every Brit native was fed up at that community “whining, swamping in population, terrorizing & scrounging”. Of how they were “taking over cities, breeding like mad, engaging in drugs, violence and trafficking etc etc etc”. And also how “you Hindus are completely different from them. How come?”.

In many instances, I ended up defending the Muslim community from their verbal tirade.

This is not my rhetoric, but quote unquote their words. This sentiment, in varying grades of colorful language, was echoed by nearly all British people I meant who ventured to broach the subject. In nearly all these comments, they initiated and conducted the discussion, not me.

I conclude that two potential eruptions of Krakatoan proportions are simultaneously brewing :

(i) On the one hand, logarithmic growth of a pampered, numerically exploding and increasingly violent religious movement, sheltered by petro-dollars, obliging media puppets, and terrified policy framers.

(ii) On the other hand, native populaces are waking up in horror to the fact that they are rapidly reducing to a minority. They are seething with barely suppressed furied discontent.

These two channels are on collision course, and must brutally collide. It is not possible to say when, but both parties know that time is disastrously running out for one of them.

It is not possible to say how the escalation will manifest(street fights, terrorism, or even slow and resigned capitulation by the British).

Yet one thing is certain, the facts indicate that the comfortable and deceptive status quo is very unlikely to hold.

This business trip was a real eye-opener.

Thats is a convenient statement to hide behind when faced with arguments you dont have answers to.

@Shan

Thanks for the compliment. If I only I could return it, but then you are unique. (Thankfully)

Noakhali = No-Akali
That one was innovative.

All:

Speaking of Noakhali, a friend of mine is working on a short multimedia presentation/movie on Noakhali massacres named ‘Noakhali46′.
We are looking for research material, references, Photographs on THE NOAKHALI MASSACRES OF 1946. If anyone wants to help, write to me at rishi_khujur@rediffmail.com

I am very fond of your comments, and especially admire your fervent and genuine insistence for patience and tolerance in the face injustice by Islam. However, I confess that some of your recent comments of trying to ‘understand’ the violence in Islam, are landing more and more off the mark. IMHO, I think your comments are revealing that what you are trying to defend, even from a noble motive, is something that cannot be shielded.

You are trying to draw a parallel between Islamic terror and the resulting violent Hindu reaction. Please realize that we do not live in a perfect world, and you will never, ever encounter a 100% benign / 100% malignant situation. There will be good and evil on both sides. While dreaming of utopia, we will have to take a stand based on these imperfections, like the Pandavas & Kauravas did. Compared to the relentless, ideologically motivated, frenzied, millennia of torture proudly unleashed by Islam on India (& most places on earth), the resultant reaction of Hindus, even in the rare instances it ‘may’ be construed unjustifiable, is a drop in the ocean. The two are not the same, and never, ever will be.

I am amazed that you think that if the USA chucks $10 billion at India, India too will turn in to a cesspool of Taleban-like madmen with sacred threads and tikis. This hypothesis has no historical basis whatsoever. Hindus have frequently experienced stages of high prosperity before. Far from turning them in to rabid fanatics, it has resulted in an efflorescence of culture, temple building, projects of social benevolence (canals, land grants) and increased trade. It has turned them into softer, gentler beings.

If I, a Hindu fanatic (sic), find Uncle Bush the secret philanthropist has deposited $5m in my Xmas stocking, I will not immediately give up my job, rub my hands, and start devising devlilishly devious means of blowing up Pakistani children. I will give up my job, promise to never get up before noon, buy up 2 years stock of Girish’s notun gur sandesh, and start touring the world.

You also talk about evil alien powers exploiting a poor, deprived, oppressed Islam to suit their own needs. You are making it sound as if the Islamists were like innocent lambs, falsely corrupted and misguided by jolly foreigner, who will immediately become paragons of virtue once the black hand is removed. This is definitely not so.

The frenzied hatred of kaffirs in Islam is atavistic, the legendary brutality is historically ingrained. If foreign powers are exploiting Islam, Islam is exploiting foreign powers as well. Even without any foreign fillip, Islam has traditionally caused immense pain and suffering on its many millions of hapless and innocent victims, especially when it was in power. What foreign power prompted Turkey to massacre 1 million Armenians? What foreign power goaded Pakistan to murder 3 million Bangladeshis? USA or Russia or China? What foreign powers maneuvered Muslims to slaughter Hindus to get their cherished Pakistan? I would say it was the Muslims who maneuvered the British in this dirty game. Your argument is refuted by historical reality at every step.

I agree with you that Xtianity was once equally, if not more brutal than Islam. However, you cannot assume that the softening process of Xtianity will automatically replicate in Islam, for the following reasons :

1. the softening process in Xtianity involved a horrific war (1618-1648) which nearly wiped out a third to a half of Xtian Europe. Do you wish the same to occur in Islam and areas inhabited by it, including India? Rhetorical question, of course you don’t.

2. There were umpteen distractions and opportunities faced by Europe to make it profitable to pursue commercial interests and divorce religion (colonization, discovery of new nations with vast resources). The world has become a lot more saturated since then to enable a standard Islamic fanatic to lay down his gun.

3. Ideologically, Xtianity offers a far more brooding promise for the afterlife until Judgement Day cometh. Islam on the other hand offers instant rewards for dying in the process of murdering kaffirs. This may seem bizarrely humorous to us, but believe you me, it is one of the most powerful motivators for jehad.

4. Xtianity was blessed with liberal leaders like Burke and Paine. The depressing galaxy of Islamic personages is no way even near in offering us any hope of such a renaissance ever occurring in Islam.

5. The clinching argument is the population detonation. Europe never, ever experienced a sustained, contrived population explosion that Islam is promoting by fair means or foul. This itself will ensure that in spite of the dam of petro-dollars and the rising numbers of decent, hionest, hardworking Muslims :-
(i) the flood of poverty in Islamic lands will ultimately turn endemic,
(ii) the lack of literacy and resultant intolerance axiomatic,
(iii) the constant search for lebensraum a sine qua non, irrespective of how many Kashmirs, Palestines, Kossovos and Albanias are ceded to them.

And fanaticism and terrorism the only outcome.

The future looks bleak. I genuinely admire your views and stance; they are a lot more noble than mine. However, in the light of the present and growing menace, I find them far less pragmatic and as a result, dangerous. Please read my comment on my recent observations in England above.

I sincerely hope you are right. I dreadingly believe you are wrong.

Not necessarily. To many people religion is more important than spirituality. They will continue to cling on to the delusions of their forefathers in spite of irrefutable evidence to the contrary.

Never trust anything the BBC says without a handfuls of skepticism

Also, a subjective method of realizing God has been firmly established in … drum roll … Hinduism (Patanjali’s Nirivikalpa Samadhi). Many of these experiences are now being realised and communicated without fear of Inquisition across the world. Please refer to the websites I mentioned above for Swati, especially http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html

“…until then…it is my modest opinon…that we should stop killing each other over divine deities someone in India, Israel or Saudi Arabia may have dreamed up in a delusional fit…”

You are preaching to the wrong people, we Hindus already know and desire this heart and soul. Please preach this to the people who for the past 1,200 years have been, and are still continuing to brutalize us.

When you have succeeded in converting the last one of them so that they do not consider us as evil vermin, who it is their religious duty to varyingly convert and exploit or kill and eradicate, then I will drain my moat.

Until then, in the light of 1,200 of years of history, failing not once time after time and incident after incident, culminating in the massacre of 3 million (primarily) Hindus in Bangladesh hardly 25 years ago, do you have the right to decry actions intended to preserve the lives of hapless Hindus?

IMHO, spirituality is the drink of nectar, religion is the chalice.

Those who can swim, can plunge into the fast flowing river of nectar and drink to their heart’s content. For the others, the chalice is a must to scoop and drink the nectar, and carry it to their loved ones back home.

However, when the chalice begins to get corroded, it affects the drink it carries. When it becomes so oxidized, that it poisons the drink, it is time to either polish the chalice, or discard it for a new one.

Golden chalices are the easiest to polish, steel ones can be kept for a while, while iron ones should be discarded.

Spirituality is a fact. More and more people are experiencing it by different means, and the conclusions all seem to reverberate what the ancient Hindu sages of yore preached to the world. If you have time, I hope you will enjoy the many good / some bad (even fraudulent) observations in the website http://www.near-death.com/ , especially the one http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html If you read nothing else, please read this one, it will be a rewarding experience.

Sorry for the desultory nature of the comment … I hope you enjoy the website cited.