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		<title>By: Rajnish</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/03/03/greatness-at-sydney/#comment-749864</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajnish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A case in Making
http://www.cricinfo.com/compaq/content/current/story/425075.html

--Sachin Tendulkar&#039;s 138 was his sixth hundred in 38 innings in finals, and it pushed his overall average in such matches up to an impressive 55.54. In his last three finals, he has notched up scores of 117 not out, 91 and 138, and India have won each of those matches.
 --In all, Tendulkar has scored 1833 runs in finals, which is easily the highest - Sanath Jayasuriya is next with 1613. Tendulkar also ranks very high in terms of all-time averages in finals: among those who&#039;ve scored at least 500 runs in finals, only three have a higher average. One of them is India&#039;s current coach, Gary Kirsten - in 20 innings, he scored 1019 runs at an excellent average of 69.73. Tendulkar&#039;s stats are very similar to those of Viv Richards, who averaged 55.73 at a strike rate of 84.78 in 17 finals. Brian Lara, on the other hand, has struggled in finals, averaging only 28.16, more than 12 runs below his career average. His one century and two fifties all came in his first four innings; in his last 14 finals, his highest score was 35.
-- The Man-of-the-Match award was Tendulkar&#039;s 59th in ODIs, and his eighth in finals. It was also his 14th Player-of-the-Series award. Tendulkar leads the all-time list in both categories - he is 11 clear of the second-placed Jayasuriya in the match awards and three ahead in the series awards.

Had Sachin really been bad in finals even before these Sydney Finals? I always felt that, but again Stats here seem to suggest otherwise..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A case in Making<br />
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<p>&#8211;Sachin Tendulkar&#8217;s 138 was his sixth hundred in 38 innings in finals, and it pushed his overall average in such matches up to an impressive 55.54. In his last three finals, he has notched up scores of 117 not out, 91 and 138, and India have won each of those matches.<br />
 &#8211;In all, Tendulkar has scored 1833 runs in finals, which is easily the highest &#8211; Sanath Jayasuriya is next with 1613. Tendulkar also ranks very high in terms of all-time averages in finals: among those who&#8217;ve scored at least 500 runs in finals, only three have a higher average. One of them is India&#8217;s current coach, Gary Kirsten &#8211; in 20 innings, he scored 1019 runs at an excellent average of 69.73. Tendulkar&#8217;s stats are very similar to those of Viv Richards, who averaged 55.73 at a strike rate of 84.78 in 17 finals. Brian Lara, on the other hand, has struggled in finals, averaging only 28.16, more than 12 runs below his career average. His one century and two fifties all came in his first four innings; in his last 14 finals, his highest score was 35.<br />
&#8211; The Man-of-the-Match award was Tendulkar&#8217;s 59th in ODIs, and his eighth in finals. It was also his 14th Player-of-the-Series award. Tendulkar leads the all-time list in both categories &#8211; he is 11 clear of the second-placed Jayasuriya in the match awards and three ahead in the series awards.</p>
<p>Had Sachin really been bad in finals even before these Sydney Finals? I always felt that, but again Stats here seem to suggest otherwise..</p>
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		<title>By: katya</title>
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		<dc:creator>katya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naah, it&#039;s not his job to finish the innings. It&#039;s just that we always expect him to do so. As an opener, he fills fear and awe in the opposition. To finish games and reach the brink of victory every time is being unreal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naah, it&#8217;s not his job to finish the innings. It&#8217;s just that we always expect him to do so. As an opener, he fills fear and awe in the opposition. To finish games and reach the brink of victory every time is being unreal.</p>
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		<title>By: Ranadurjay Talukdar</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/03/03/greatness-at-sydney/#comment-502348</link>
		<dc:creator>Ranadurjay Talukdar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The last time that Sachin played a command innings under choking pressure is, as far as I recall, during World Cup 2003 in the match against Pakistan. With qualification for the next stage on the line...............&quot;

Yes, Sachin played exceptionally well in Australia this time round (possibly the best he has played in ODIs), but let&#039;s not get carried away by that and start attributing every famous knock of his to have been played under pressure.

The match against Pak was the last match for India in the group stage, prior to super six. India had already qualified by then (they had 16 pts. before the Pak match). Only Eng and Zim could have tied points with India if India lost to Pak (and Eng and Zim had won their remaining game), but since both had lost to India in their group matches, India would have qualified anyway. Same for the Pak-Eng-India tied at 16 points scenario, had that happened. In the end, neither Eng nor Zim could win their remaining match,but Zimbabwe&#039;s match against Pak was washed out and hence Zim qualified.

Thus, that innings was played when the job was already done and is hence, not &quot;an innings under pressure&quot;, just a good innings. The great man needed to fire in the finals, which he couldnt. In fact, he seldom has before this tri-series final.

It always helps to get your facts right. Makes your post more credible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The last time that Sachin played a command innings under choking pressure is, as far as I recall, during World Cup 2003 in the match against Pakistan. With qualification for the next stage on the line&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, Sachin played exceptionally well in Australia this time round (possibly the best he has played in ODIs), but let&#8217;s not get carried away by that and start attributing every famous knock of his to have been played under pressure.</p>
<p>The match against Pak was the last match for India in the group stage, prior to super six. India had already qualified by then (they had 16 pts. before the Pak match). Only Eng and Zim could have tied points with India if India lost to Pak (and Eng and Zim had won their remaining game), but since both had lost to India in their group matches, India would have qualified anyway. Same for the Pak-Eng-India tied at 16 points scenario, had that happened. In the end, neither Eng nor Zim could win their remaining match,but Zimbabwe&#8217;s match against Pak was washed out and hence Zim qualified.</p>
<p>Thus, that innings was played when the job was already done and is hence, not &#8220;an innings under pressure&#8221;, just a good innings. The great man needed to fire in the finals, which he couldnt. In fact, he seldom has before this tri-series final.</p>
<p>It always helps to get your facts right. Makes your post more credible.</p>
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		<title>By: aniket</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/03/03/greatness-at-sydney/#comment-501948</link>
		<dc:creator>aniket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh...i forgot to menttion how many matches we won against australia during last 10 years....7 times! 5 of them at home (BTW we got our asses whacked 11 times for those 5 wins!).
2 away wins in 10 years right in the middle of the prime of laxman, dada and dravid....and people still yacking about how they deserved a place in the side????
einsteins....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh&#8230;i forgot to menttion how many matches we won against australia during last 10 years&#8230;.7 times! 5 of them at home (BTW we got our asses whacked 11 times for those 5 wins!).<br />
2 away wins in 10 years right in the middle of the prime of laxman, dada and dravid&#8230;.and people still yacking about how they deserved a place in the side????<br />
einsteins&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: aniket</title>
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		<dc:creator>aniket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmmm...lemme see....we win 1 match in 10 against australia in australia past two tours combined (2000 and 2003)with dada, dravid and laxman much younger....and yet so much was made of their axing from this team. Guess the word for anyone who still believes it could work this time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmm&#8230;lemme see&#8230;.we win 1 match in 10 against australia in australia past two tours combined (2000 and 2003)with dada, dravid and laxman much younger&#8230;.and yet so much was made of their axing from this team. Guess the word for anyone who still believes it could work this time around.</p>
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		<title>By: Shourideb Bhattacharyya</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/03/03/greatness-at-sydney/#comment-501688</link>
		<dc:creator>Shourideb Bhattacharyya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok guys just tone down the language...u may or may not like some cricketers but that gives u no right to call others &#039;morons&#039; etc..stop acting like pakis on youtube</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok guys just tone down the language&#8230;u may or may not like some cricketers but that gives u no right to call others &#8216;morons&#8217; etc..stop acting like pakis on youtube</p>
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		<title>By: aniket</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/03/03/greatness-at-sydney/#comment-500643</link>
		<dc:creator>aniket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 07:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok....one more thing....Every moron defending ganguly dravid and Laxman first has to name at least 3 games in which they played a matchwinning innings against australia...ONE DAYERS mind you....
Chao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230;.one more thing&#8230;.Every moron defending ganguly dravid and Laxman first has to name at least 3 games in which they played a matchwinning innings against australia&#8230;ONE DAYERS mind you&#8230;.<br />
Chao</p>
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		<title>By: aniket</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/03/03/greatness-at-sydney/#comment-500640</link>
		<dc:creator>aniket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 07:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey how about a few nice words about our young team??? how they looked completely different from all the old ones not in terms of cricketing skills but in overall approach and body language to compete.
If you start going to back to look at which games (one day) we have won against australia without Sachin playin a big role, you would probably struggle. Dropping dravid ganguly and laxman therefore was a non-issue to begin with. So it would be nice to read something about the whole team. And why may i ask not a single word about Rohit Sharma??
hmmm..lemme guess...may be because he played in place of one of the &#039;Seniors&#039;!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey how about a few nice words about our young team??? how they looked completely different from all the old ones not in terms of cricketing skills but in overall approach and body language to compete.<br />
If you start going to back to look at which games (one day) we have won against australia without Sachin playin a big role, you would probably struggle. Dropping dravid ganguly and laxman therefore was a non-issue to begin with. So it would be nice to read something about the whole team. And why may i ask not a single word about Rohit Sharma??<br />
hmmm..lemme guess&#8230;may be because he played in place of one of the &#8216;Seniors&#8217;!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dhruv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dhruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 05:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kaangeya dude

you are taking a little too far. i hate aus team and their ways - just like any non-aussie would. 

but you&#039;d be kidding yourself if you forgot how difficult a team it still is. 

dont you forget how they screwed india on a meagre run chase of 160. it took such a big effort from us to win it.

then the 180 odd they f&#039;ed us bad. 

it just happened to be the case that almighty sachin came to party in the finals and some good backing from youth factor made us win the finals. (ppl like ganguly and dravid are lost mentally against aussies even before the match starts, so this is where the youth really played a part i believe. plus praveen kumars brilliant spell)

if our current indian team plays 10 matches against aus, i bet we&#039;l loose more than 6 to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kaangeya dude</p>
<p>you are taking a little too far. i hate aus team and their ways &#8211; just like any non-aussie would. </p>
<p>but you&#8217;d be kidding yourself if you forgot how difficult a team it still is. </p>
<p>dont you forget how they screwed india on a meagre run chase of 160. it took such a big effort from us to win it.</p>
<p>then the 180 odd they f&#8217;ed us bad. </p>
<p>it just happened to be the case that almighty sachin came to party in the finals and some good backing from youth factor made us win the finals. (ppl like ganguly and dravid are lost mentally against aussies even before the match starts, so this is where the youth really played a part i believe. plus praveen kumars brilliant spell)</p>
<p>if our current indian team plays 10 matches against aus, i bet we&#8217;l loose more than 6 to them.</p>
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		<title>By: kaangeya</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/03/03/greatness-at-sydney/#comment-495584</link>
		<dc:creator>kaangeya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come no one is talking about Ponting and Hayden&#039;s discomfort with the pitched up delivery?  It was delightful to see Ponting in discomfort against Ishant in the Perth test.  Made him look like an amateur.  It takes grace that only Gavaskar can summon to be honest, &quot;look here, no one likes short pitched stuff.&quot;  This is an Indian team that simply doesn&#039;t care for reputations and coming from a country that dominates the cricket economy, the youngsters miss no opportunity to drive it in.  About time the empty headed Aussies were brought down from their perch.  This is a repeat of the T20 series when Ponting and his dumb bunch were outthought, outplayed, and out-aggro&#039;ed by what Greg Chappal would call &quot;a wonderfully talented team&quot;.  Not having McGrath and Warne does make a big difference right?  I hope the Aussies come down to earth.  Method cricket is good, but when it meets raw talent with youth, it doesn&#039;t stand a chance.  Curtains for Ponting?  About time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come no one is talking about Ponting and Hayden&#8217;s discomfort with the pitched up delivery?  It was delightful to see Ponting in discomfort against Ishant in the Perth test.  Made him look like an amateur.  It takes grace that only Gavaskar can summon to be honest, &#8220;look here, no one likes short pitched stuff.&#8221;  This is an Indian team that simply doesn&#8217;t care for reputations and coming from a country that dominates the cricket economy, the youngsters miss no opportunity to drive it in.  About time the empty headed Aussies were brought down from their perch.  This is a repeat of the T20 series when Ponting and his dumb bunch were outthought, outplayed, and out-aggro&#8217;ed by what Greg Chappal would call &#8220;a wonderfully talented team&#8221;.  Not having McGrath and Warne does make a big difference right?  I hope the Aussies come down to earth.  Method cricket is good, but when it meets raw talent with youth, it doesn&#8217;t stand a chance.  Curtains for Ponting?  About time.</p>
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