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		<title>By: Nikhil</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/11/27/some-thoughts/#comment-670409</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikhil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we should just be glad that our country still has sons who are willing to lay down their lives inspite of the pathetic treatment meted out to them. Am just sad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we should just be glad that our country still has sons who are willing to lay down their lives inspite of the pathetic treatment meted out to them. Am just sad</p>
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		<title>By: idris</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/11/27/some-thoughts/#comment-670113</link>
		<dc:creator>idris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was there in my beloved mumbai during the 26th july episode and the train bombings... 
Even as the authorities had kept posters all around the stations and train compartments that &quot;its not silly to look underneath your seat for a suspicious bag&quot;, still everytime i looked under my seat i got a sly smile from a fellow passenger. Please stop this attitude, &quot;spirit of mumbai&quot; is fine .. good that we get back(we dont hav a choice) but lets get a li&#039;l more aware.. keep our eyes open. i m not saying that live in a paranoid like situation all the time but few basic precautions here n there should be taken. n don&#039;t give that ugly look to the security guy who checks yr belongings everytime u enter a mall or a theater...
let&#039;s stand united n stop the marathi-UP, n the old but powerful religious divide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was there in my beloved mumbai during the 26th july episode and the train bombings&#8230;<br />
Even as the authorities had kept posters all around the stations and train compartments that &#8220;its not silly to look underneath your seat for a suspicious bag&#8221;, still everytime i looked under my seat i got a sly smile from a fellow passenger. Please stop this attitude, &#8220;spirit of mumbai&#8221; is fine .. good that we get back(we dont hav a choice) but lets get a li&#8217;l more aware.. keep our eyes open. i m not saying that live in a paranoid like situation all the time but few basic precautions here n there should be taken. n don&#8217;t give that ugly look to the security guy who checks yr belongings everytime u enter a mall or a theater&#8230;<br />
let&#8217;s stand united n stop the marathi-UP, n the old but powerful religious divide.</p>
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		<title>By: Venky</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/11/27/some-thoughts/#comment-669638</link>
		<dc:creator>Venky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so our home minister has resigned...
wonder what good this is going to do...now chidambaram is the new home minister...

honestly now have absolutely no faith in any of these politicians...no matter who takes charge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so our home minister has resigned&#8230;<br />
wonder what good this is going to do&#8230;now chidambaram is the new home minister&#8230;</p>
<p>honestly now have absolutely no faith in any of these politicians&#8230;no matter who takes charge</p>
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		<title>By: Rationale</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/11/27/some-thoughts/#comment-669637</link>
		<dc:creator>Rationale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can’t believe this is Amitabh Bachchan- http://bigb.bigadda.com/2008/11/30/day-220/ Kinda sums up the mood of the nation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can’t believe this is Amitabh Bachchan- <a href="http://bigb.bigadda.com/2008/11/30/day-220/" rel="nofollow">http://bigb.bigadda.com/2008/11/30/day-220/</a> Kinda sums up the mood of the nation</p>
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		<title>By: Deeps</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/11/27/some-thoughts/#comment-669495</link>
		<dc:creator>Deeps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually refrain from commenting on such subjects on this forum. It usually gets meesy, but, this time around, I goddamn cant wait to see if somebody in this government/opposition/Whosoever has the balls to go in hot pursuit of the perpetrators to every corner they hide in, like the US did after 9/11. If it takes a Modi, so be it. We will hedge that risk. The human rights activists, the sympathizers and the likes of et all be damned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually refrain from commenting on such subjects on this forum. It usually gets meesy, but, this time around, I goddamn cant wait to see if somebody in this government/opposition/Whosoever has the balls to go in hot pursuit of the perpetrators to every corner they hide in, like the US did after 9/11. If it takes a Modi, so be it. We will hedge that risk. The human rights activists, the sympathizers and the likes of et all be damned.</p>
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		<title>By: Dheeman</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/11/27/some-thoughts/#comment-669294</link>
		<dc:creator>Dheeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the feeling of numbness and total helplessness which stemmed from the knowledge that a bunch of 20-25 yrs old can hold an entire city to ransom, the next thing I feel right now is Pride at the actions of  officers like  Hemant Karkare, Vijay Salaskar, Ashok Kamte and all brave policemen, NSG Commandos and Security personnel who expired in the line of duty, who showed us what duty before self means yet again.

As long as there are officers like them who will march forward to face these bullies and terriorist without a pause , Indian spirit can be broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the feeling of numbness and total helplessness which stemmed from the knowledge that a bunch of 20-25 yrs old can hold an entire city to ransom, the next thing I feel right now is Pride at the actions of  officers like  Hemant Karkare, Vijay Salaskar, Ashok Kamte and all brave policemen, NSG Commandos and Security personnel who expired in the line of duty, who showed us what duty before self means yet again.</p>
<p>As long as there are officers like them who will march forward to face these bullies and terriorist without a pause , Indian spirit can be broken.</p>
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		<title>By: Harshit</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/11/27/some-thoughts/#comment-669293</link>
		<dc:creator>Harshit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one observation. i saw Manmohan Singh&#039;s address to the nation, and trust me it was not the way it should be. For a person who leads the country, it should be a more firm, well-spoken statement, rather than one that was clearly read out, like a kid reads out an announcement written by a teacher at an annual day function.

I remember George W Bush&#039;s statement after 9/11  &quot;Make No Mistake&quot;, if you remember, and for all that he may or may not have done, that speech has a message, a statement which gave you the feeling that he is concerned and will do something about the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one observation. i saw Manmohan Singh&#8217;s address to the nation, and trust me it was not the way it should be. For a person who leads the country, it should be a more firm, well-spoken statement, rather than one that was clearly read out, like a kid reads out an announcement written by a teacher at an annual day function.</p>
<p>I remember George W Bush&#8217;s statement after 9/11  &#8220;Make No Mistake&#8221;, if you remember, and for all that he may or may not have done, that speech has a message, a statement which gave you the feeling that he is concerned and will do something about the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Aryan Niyukti</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/11/27/some-thoughts/#comment-669267</link>
		<dc:creator>Aryan Niyukti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superimpose a poiltitian speaking in the aftermath of terror attack over any such event, I bet no one would know the difference. &quot;Sources point to Lashkar/Jaish&quot;,&quot;Investigation is on&quot;, &quot;Heartfelt condolence to the family &amp; friends&quot;,&quot;rushing to take stock&quot;, &quot;leave no stone unturned&quot;...What changes are the victims, their friends, families &amp; countess lives that are scarred for life.Can&#039;t superimpose them,each one has to bear the cross alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superimpose a poiltitian speaking in the aftermath of terror attack over any such event, I bet no one would know the difference. &#8220;Sources point to Lashkar/Jaish&#8221;,&#8221;Investigation is on&#8221;, &#8220;Heartfelt condolence to the family &amp; friends&#8221;,&#8221;rushing to take stock&#8221;, &#8220;leave no stone unturned&#8221;&#8230;What changes are the victims, their friends, families &amp; countess lives that are scarred for life.Can&#8217;t superimpose them,each one has to bear the cross alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Supriyo Chaudhuri</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/11/27/some-thoughts/#comment-669258</link>
		<dc:creator>Supriyo Chaudhuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why blame just Pakistani Government? They don&#039;t actually govern the country anymore. I doubt they have the power and the control to arrange these attacks anymore.

Indian politician&#039;s don&#039;t have much imagination, and hence they repeat the tired formula of ISI-behind-it after anything has gone wrong. That is so 1990s! Give us a break - terrorism today is far more sinister, far more grassroots and far less controllable.

I think our government needs to wake up [Shivraj Patil definitely sounded very sleepy] and look for solutions in other places. What about tackling the mafia in Mumbai? Do you think this could be organized without inside help? Things like a trunk-full of grenades kept waiting at the Taj or Oberoi, for example? Transport solutions inside the city [how else do you carry around assualt weapons]? Can we expect to Dawood, among others, walk the gallows anytime soon?

Time to act, surely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why blame just Pakistani Government? They don&#8217;t actually govern the country anymore. I doubt they have the power and the control to arrange these attacks anymore.</p>
<p>Indian politician&#8217;s don&#8217;t have much imagination, and hence they repeat the tired formula of ISI-behind-it after anything has gone wrong. That is so 1990s! Give us a break &#8211; terrorism today is far more sinister, far more grassroots and far less controllable.</p>
<p>I think our government needs to wake up [Shivraj Patil definitely sounded very sleepy] and look for solutions in other places. What about tackling the mafia in Mumbai? Do you think this could be organized without inside help? Things like a trunk-full of grenades kept waiting at the Taj or Oberoi, for example? Transport solutions inside the city [how else do you carry around assualt weapons]? Can we expect to Dawood, among others, walk the gallows anytime soon?</p>
<p>Time to act, surely.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajiv Iyer</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2008/11/27/some-thoughts/#comment-669236</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajiv Iyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough has been said about this sad mess by everyone, which has taken terrorist audacity to whole new levels .... A lot of talk and no real action .... It is now time to do something about it once and for all.

The events of the past 48 hours indicates completely dysfunctional intelligence forces. The entire state security machinery was caught completely surprised and off-guard, unable to comprehend the true scale of the attacks and completely flummoxed as to the protocols of response to be enforced. The top cops (Karkare - chief of ATS, Salaskar - encounter specialist, Kamte - additional CP) perished in the first hour of this tragedy, not because of bravery, but simply because they under-calculated the scale and planning of the terrorists. This sense of under-calculation was combined with woefully inadequate equipment (shoddy looking &#039;bullet-proof&#039; jackets and flimsy looking helmets) and extremely uncoordinated efforts led to their untimely demise.

The tragic events of the past two days has only tarnished India&#039;s credibility as a stable and peaceful democratic society. It can only mean a further degradation in the way the world perceives India for its tourist/business friendlyness and shall impact its standing in the world. It also further frustrates the people of this country, who in the past couple of years have had little respite from all kinds of extremist attacks.

We have proved time and again to be completely inept at dealing with contingencies and disasters - natural or human. This event only further highlights the extent of paralysis amongst security forces in the immediate aftermath of such terrorist attacks. We need to urgently establish strong channels of intelligence gathering and also put in place strong and unambiguous protocols of engagement with these terrorists. Questions about the chain of command, the union govt&#039;s involvement with state security agencies, etc. must be sorted by putting in place a comprehensive framework for synchronization of various state and union security forces. 


For all of our trumpeting about our technological prowess and moon-touching capabilities, we are far away from providing economic and social equity and security to the masses. The terrorists have reminded us rather brutally, that our sense of pride and ego is misplaced, that in spite of the progress we seem to have made, we are extremely vulnerable to disruptions of normality. I think we as Indians have to start being a little more humble and sombre, realizing that for all that we have achieved, there is indeed much much more that needs to be done. We, as members of general society, must move decisively to ensure that politicians enforce measures and mechanisms to ensure such incidents are not repeated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough has been said about this sad mess by everyone, which has taken terrorist audacity to whole new levels &#8230;. A lot of talk and no real action &#8230;. It is now time to do something about it once and for all.</p>
<p>The events of the past 48 hours indicates completely dysfunctional intelligence forces. The entire state security machinery was caught completely surprised and off-guard, unable to comprehend the true scale of the attacks and completely flummoxed as to the protocols of response to be enforced. The top cops (Karkare &#8211; chief of ATS, Salaskar &#8211; encounter specialist, Kamte &#8211; additional CP) perished in the first hour of this tragedy, not because of bravery, but simply because they under-calculated the scale and planning of the terrorists. This sense of under-calculation was combined with woefully inadequate equipment (shoddy looking &#8216;bullet-proof&#8217; jackets and flimsy looking helmets) and extremely uncoordinated efforts led to their untimely demise.</p>
<p>The tragic events of the past two days has only tarnished India&#8217;s credibility as a stable and peaceful democratic society. It can only mean a further degradation in the way the world perceives India for its tourist/business friendlyness and shall impact its standing in the world. It also further frustrates the people of this country, who in the past couple of years have had little respite from all kinds of extremist attacks.</p>
<p>We have proved time and again to be completely inept at dealing with contingencies and disasters &#8211; natural or human. This event only further highlights the extent of paralysis amongst security forces in the immediate aftermath of such terrorist attacks. We need to urgently establish strong channels of intelligence gathering and also put in place strong and unambiguous protocols of engagement with these terrorists. Questions about the chain of command, the union govt&#8217;s involvement with state security agencies, etc. must be sorted by putting in place a comprehensive framework for synchronization of various state and union security forces. </p>
<p>For all of our trumpeting about our technological prowess and moon-touching capabilities, we are far away from providing economic and social equity and security to the masses. The terrorists have reminded us rather brutally, that our sense of pride and ego is misplaced, that in spite of the progress we seem to have made, we are extremely vulnerable to disruptions of normality. I think we as Indians have to start being a little more humble and sombre, realizing that for all that we have achieved, there is indeed much much more that needs to be done. We, as members of general society, must move decisively to ensure that politicians enforce measures and mechanisms to ensure such incidents are not repeated.</p>
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