I totally second that comment from RR. Today’s India is not comparable with Lebanon. Indian democracy has crossed that critical phase.

Dr. Death, Aribert Heim who became Tarek Hussein Farid rarely allowed himself to be photographed during his time in Egypt.

http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2009/02/05/another-nazi-convert-to-islam-who-found-a-haven-in-egypt-“dr-death”-uncle-tarek”-hussein-farid-did-cairo/print/

“No, I am not fluent in Persian or Arabic. I did however take a few lessons in Arabic, learnt the script very quickly, and know 200 words. It struck me how easy the script was to master, and how that must have contributed to the spread of literacy and uniformity in the early Islamic world. And I contrasted that with the complexity of Sanskrit, and how it affected Indian society.”

Man….. you continue to marvel me. These kind of sociological observation are like small nuggets of gold. Its almost like the exposition of a detective. This was almost like a Sherlock Holmes quote. Your skills of intuition and deduction are just of the highest order. HHBB …these kind of paragraphs prove that you are no ordinary man.

“” Muslim nations, especially 100% Muslim ones, may tear each other to pieces. (My hypothesis is this is a result of the fanaticism their belief system has created …. they need their sacrifical lambs, and thus when all other victims have been slaughtered, they have no option but to fall upon themselves.) Thus Shia/Sunni genocides, Pakistan’s massacre of Ahmadiyas, the bitterness between Fatah & Hamas (admittedly many other factors are responsible for this).

However, at the very sign of another belief-system raising its head, erstwhile deadly Muslim fores, will block out their animosity and eat alive Non-Muslim foes. Only after the muffled cry of the last non-Muslim victim dies down, will they resume their hatred. Thus we have the obliteration of Vijaynagar by combined Muslim armies. Thus we have Bangldesh’s sickening covert rapproachment with Pakistan barely 30 years after a genocide.”"

BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO. A lot of innocent muslims were killed during the terror attacks too. So where writers in future use one of the greatest quotes of all time by Rishi Khujur, “M’s are as much a victim of I as the rest of humanity”, I hope they use this brilliant excerpt as an annotation.

Are you surprised to read that? ))Guess what? I am not. Sunil Ganguly is very popular in Bangladesh. So he tries to appease both parties – Indians (who are astonished and shocked by these attacks), and some rabid Islamists in Bangladesh (who buy his books and are happy that the terrorists did this to Mumbai), and ultimately comes up with a foolish statement. He doesn’t care about the attacks.

You will be secretly surprised to know that every politician in Allimuddin street has had orgasmic feelings when they heard of the Mumbai blasts. You see the left wing mindset is very complex- they try to bend over backwards to show that they care for Islam. So let us take a hypothetical JNU girl Rita. Rita is liberal, uber-cool, has seven tattos on her body , drinks mocha cappuccino and hates anyone who uses the term “Muslim terrorists”. So on a first date with you, she tells you about how she is horrified about the backlash against minorities. That is, the act of terror perturbs her less than the backlash. She is the kind who bends over backwards and searches for persians, turks (common denominator being a Muslim) and what not and sleeps with them. This makes her feel that she is liberal. During an emotional love making session, a paki guy tells her that how he supports the terror in India. But she is the liberal….so she somehow bends over backwards and accpets his views. Again, this makes her feel more liberal. The next day at the coffee shop….she jumps at the throat of one guy who talks bad about Palenstine. Then the Mumbai blasts happen. The next day, you see her at the cafe again. She is quieter today. Biting her nails. So when someone tells her about the terror, she shrugs and says that this is the price we pay for being liberal. She still would not call those guys who attacked “terrorists” as that would not make her “feel” liberal. Then she will give you some esoteric roundabout view as to how the blasts were a result of minority injustice and whatever.

You see this secret love between left liberal people and Islam is very complex. You see my ex gf is from California. Shes a liberal and an atheist. But somehow that liberal things overwhelms the atheist part. So she sings effusive praise of Sam Harris till he mentions in his latest book about how he thinks that every religion is bad, but how Islam as especially bad and illustrates the case of killing during the riots of 47. She is american but said to me that “Sam Harris is wrong there about Islam”, even though she is ignorant about the historical facts. My illustration is to prove that natioanality may be different, but this strange respect and support for Islam is a common denominator for communists all over the world. So you can never convince any liberal to be rational. In a way, they are as deluded as Ann Coulter. My theory is that there is a mutual respect between Islam and Communism due to their common “mind-control” procedures.

The bottom line here is that left liberal people are not especially perturbed about Mumbai blasts. If you try to go after terrorists, they don’t like it. They like open borders, infiltration, setting up of rabid religious camps and sheltering terrorists. The state of West Bengal abounds with a heavy number of such pseudo secular liberals (sic). The terrorists know this and take comfort from the fact that they have one place in India- Bengal to be precise, where they have a safe haven. That is why Calcutta will has or will be a target of terrorist attacks.

Link: “Kolkata intellectuals mourn terror victims”:
http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/02/stories/2008120255351100.htm

Lets analyze here what this “pseudo-secular intellectual” says. According to him, death of both the innocent people and the terrorists are meaningless. Look, he doesn’t use a word of sympathy for the innocent victims of terror.

Further, by bracketing the innocent people and terrorists together he makes it clear that he doesn’t differentiate between them. Both are killed by violent actions and violent actions cannot stall the pace of development in the country.

So killing of an innocent people or a terrorist is a meaningless violent action. If a terrorist is killed by the police its meaningless violent action in his book.

And such killing of terrorists are supposed to stall the pace of development. If the terrorists are spared, the pace of development wont be hampered, possibly.

However, in this case he is confident that meaningless violence against terrorism won’t be able to stall the pace of development in India

Facile jokes aside (I was only kidding, hope you didn’t take offence) . I will take one last attempt and close the issue.

For example, if you say “boys wear trousers to distinguish themselves from girls”, this does not mean you are saying girls never wear trousers. This fact is so obvious, that you do not need to say “boys wear trousers to distinguish themselves from girls …… but some girls wear trousers ‘as well’.”

I will try to find a way to apprise readers of the mutual bonhomie the Nazis shared with Islam. As GB mentioned to me, this is not the right thread, so I’ll desist on this thread. However, if a suitable opportunity presents itself, I’ll post it, as it is something very important.

This is not my ‘hatred of Islam’, but my caution against it. Islam has many fantastic attributes. Its adherents are dedicated, united, spirited and progressive (as far as they are concerned). However, because of its attenuated robustness, it can easily be manipulated by evil leaders to commit horrific atrocities. Thus the Nazis wished to utilise the violent side of Islam. It is something we should note and guard ourselves against. Thus world terrorist movements sooner or later gravitate towards Islamist extremists, like Sikh separatists, ETA, ULFA, Naxals etc. This is something we should guard against.

If Islam can be used for good, it can change the world in one decade what the Christains could not do in a hundred, or Hindus could nto do in a thousand.

Hades had also mentioned to Reena Singh that the Nazis took a laissez faire attitude to the Mufti ‘until the war started’, as they wanted to court Britain. This is not entirely correct. Germany had been surreptitiously supporting the entire Palestine movement with money, materials and arms throughout, possibly as far back as the early 1930s. It is true that they curtailed their activities in 1936 in deference to expected British ties, but this rapidly changed in 1937, with Adolf Eichmann and Herbert Hagen visiting Palestine, meeting the Grand Mufti, and establishing a close relationship with him.

Extended visits by the leader of Hitler Youth, Baldur von Schirach, and the head of the Abwehr (counterintelligence service), Wilhelm Canaris, quickly followed. From 1933, al Husseini had been regularly meeting local Nazi representatives and openly expressing admiration for Hitler. During these meetings, he served as a liaison for the Muslim Brotherhood to the Nazis.

Between 1936-1939, Adolf Eichmann, oversaw funding from the SS to al Husseini and his associates, to aid their efforts in encouraging a revolt in the region.

Hades further suggested to Reena that the Mufti’s actions of causing the death of 5,000 Jewish children were not monumental in terms of war casualties. While this is correct, many scholars believe the Mufti should be held accountable in playing a key, if not exclusive role, for 500,000 deaths. His ceaseless hectoring of German, Rumanian, and Hungarian government, often leveraging his relationship with prominent Nazis like Himmler and Eichmann, played a key role in cancelling 480,000 exit visas granted to Jews (80,000 from Rumania, and 400,000 from Hungary).

As a result, all these Jews were deported to Polish concentration camps, and death. In 1947, a document presented to the United Nations Assembly included the Mufti’s June 28, 1943 letter to the Hungarian Foreign Minister requesting deporting Hungarian Jews to Poland. The UN document included a grim annotation: “As a sequel to this request 400,000 Jews were subsequently killed.”

The Mufti was a horrible man. Just thought you’d like to know.

From RAVI (permanent thick member 1 of 2)

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Dear fellow thick members,

As you can see, I have continued with my thick rantings today. I know HHBB has tried to explain it to me, but I could not understand it as I am so thick.

I have noticed that HHBB has tried explaining it to me a few times. But it is futile, I will not understand, as I am so thick.

I cite one para of HHBB. My interpretation of this is selective, and I cannot see the full import. This is because I am thick.

I appreciate that even though the para needed no further clarification, even this clarification is available in HHBB’s second para above. But I will have to give up on this, as I cannot deal with two paras together. This is because I am lazy as well as thick.

One advantage of being thick is that thick people can spew rubbish against Hindu nationalists as inspired by Nazism, even when there is no proof. And when proof is cited that it is Islam and Nazism that were very close, I can dismiss this as hate propaganda. We are allowed this lassitude by society because we are so thick.

HHBB’s description of me as the character in Dog Day afternoon is only partially correct. The ‘urges’ are the same, but I am not intelligent like Sonny. This is because I am so thick.

I will continue in my thick postings. Intelligent people may find it an irritation to respond to my posts, as they are busy people, and prefer posting intelligent comments. However, I do not mind, as I have a lot of time on my hands. This is because I am unemployed. And thick.

Thanking you,

Yours very thickly,

Ravi the thick

Apu….er….HHBB now: All grown-up knows the basic fact that both single and double quotation marks are used for quotes

HHBB before OED link: Where irony is intended, to **distinguish it from direct quotations**, **single quotation marks** are used. Thus I used the term ‘Hindu camp’ **rather than** “Hindu camp”

need I say anything more….

and good of GB to strop yr hate propaganda

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THE THICK BRIGADE

This is to announce the grand opening of the “Thick Brigade”, an organisation exclusively devoted to look after the needs of thick people.

We currently have 2 full-time, permanent members, Hades and Ravi.

Welcome, one and all. Come and meet new people. Come and make new friends.

Anyone can join our Thick Brigade, but you have to prove that you are genuinely thick. Not normal stupidity, like consistently getting kicked out of jobs, or failing the same exam three times. No, I am talking about a thickness so profound, that it makes two planks of wood look svelte, makes numbskulls look didactic. I am talking Guinness Book of World Records thickness.

Anyone who has made a single intelligent comment on this blogsite is automatically debarred from our institution.

You are also debarred if you can walk straight, dress yourself or tie your own shoe-laces. However, if you drool while drinking milk, and more than half the contents dribble out, we may consider your application even if you do not walk funny.

Please send a self-addressed envelope to xxxxxxxx. Please do not send any e-mails, as frankly, they are too complicated for us. Also, do not, I strictly repeat, not, include any punctuation marks in your letter. Full stops are ok, and we have nearly mastered the concept of comma. But Hades got a letter last week which used a semi-colon, and fainted.

Thick brigade is looking forward to expanding our current base of two. Please join us if you feel you are thick enough.

Welcome to the world of grown-ups, Ravi. Now read the following two points.

1. All grown-up knows the basic fact that both single and double quotation marks are used for quotes. This is so obvious, that it is an axiom, i does not require emphasising. All adults are aware that other grown-ups are fully cognizant of this fact. What you are bizarrely concluding does not even appear in the minds of anyone with more than half a brain cell.

2. So no further clarification was required. But even then, there was further clarification!! If you read the post, the comment succeeding it is “The sarcasm intended follows with abundant clarity from the punctuation, context as well as the recent prior post”.

To anyone with half a brain cell or more, this signifies that you need the punctuation & context to understand. The inherent meaning of this is the punctuation is not enough ‘on its own’. The inherent meaning of that is the punctutation can stand for something else as well.

Do you understand? Can I make it any simpler? I feel like Telsa having a discussion with Lalloo (hahahah).

Incidentally, based on Hades request, I had also posted detailed comments, with clear references (including weblinks) on the ‘love story’ between the Nazis and Islam. How Hitler & Himmler both praised Islam effusively, wishing that Europeans were Muslim, how Nazis assisted Islam before, during, and after the war, and the Nazi-Islamist nexus today.

GreatBong was not comfortable with posting it in this thread, and has deleted it (kindly informing me why). Thus even this allegation, that the Nazis & Hindu mutually respected each other, falls squat on face.

Your & Hades’ nice double act is touching. Perhaps you should go to California and tie the knot and start gyrating to music from ‘Erasure’!! Hee hee hee

And do you know who you remind me of? Sonny Wortznik from the movie “Dog Day Afternoon”. Check it out.

Pfffff Gfffff Fhhhh hahahahaha