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		<title>By: Arindam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arindam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rahul

To win Test matches, you need bowlers who can take 20 wickets. How often has India had that sort of a bowling attack. If you see the link I posted in the last post, in the list of players with the highest percentage of MoM awards in a Test Match, 4 are bowlers / bowling all-rounders and the fifth one is a batting all-rounder. The memory of Kapil Dev that I have was this swashbuckler who&#039;d stand and deliver (but too often get out like Sehwag does).

An I&#039;ll be surprised if you really believe the opposition fears Sehwag more than Sachin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rahul</p>
<p>To win Test matches, you need bowlers who can take 20 wickets. How often has India had that sort of a bowling attack. If you see the link I posted in the last post, in the list of players with the highest percentage of MoM awards in a Test Match, 4 are bowlers / bowling all-rounders and the fifth one is a batting all-rounder. The memory of Kapil Dev that I have was this swashbuckler who&#8217;d stand and deliver (but too often get out like Sehwag does).</p>
<p>An I&#8217;ll be surprised if you really believe the opposition fears Sehwag more than Sachin.</p>
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		<title>By: Arindam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arindam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nanda Kishore

Could not agree more about Viv. I was watching that innings of 189 out of Windies’ 272 against England with Eldine Baptiste and Michael Holding for company. He was a merciless hitter, but man did he hit the ball straight.

Then that anecdote … Dean Jones was in his early days and had to stand at Short Leg with Viv batting. Deano is visibly shaken by the prospect, but Sir Viv turns around and says - “Don’t worry kid, I won’t hurt you. I am going to hurt that maan in the staand.”

Anyway, to be fair Sachin has been India’s greatest performer and he has handled better quality bowling than most contemporary greats (even Ricky Ponting). On the other hand, his Test record is only marginally better than Rahul Dravid who started playing 7 years after him. Even so, he is the leading getter of MoM awards in Tests for India (in number, second to Kumble by a shade in percentage). Here is a link:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/2cbe5a19dd13d912?pli=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nanda Kishore</p>
<p>Could not agree more about Viv. I was watching that innings of 189 out of Windies’ 272 against England with Eldine Baptiste and Michael Holding for company. He was a merciless hitter, but man did he hit the ball straight.</p>
<p>Then that anecdote … Dean Jones was in his early days and had to stand at Short Leg with Viv batting. Deano is visibly shaken by the prospect, but Sir Viv turns around and says &#8211; “Don’t worry kid, I won’t hurt you. I am going to hurt that maan in the staand.”</p>
<p>Anyway, to be fair Sachin has been India’s greatest performer and he has handled better quality bowling than most contemporary greats (even Ricky Ponting). On the other hand, his Test record is only marginally better than Rahul Dravid who started playing 7 years after him. Even so, he is the leading getter of MoM awards in Tests for India (in number, second to Kumble by a shade in percentage). Here is a link:</p>
<p><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/2cbe5a19dd13d912?pli=1" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/2cbe5a19dd13d912?pli=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nanda Kishore</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2009/11/18/sachin-the-underperformer/#comment-770407</link>
		<dc:creator>Nanda Kishore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dead thread, yet...

Good points some, GB, but I fail to see how Viv&#039;s style &#039;ultimately failed him&#039;. Viv averaged 50+ in tests IIRC and 47+ in ODIs, while not losing any opportunity to dominate attacks. Your comment about his shot selection in &#039;83 smacks of revisionism, in my opinion. Comparisons are ultimately futile, but a million journeymen like Roebuck (who&#039;s been apologising for his gaffe of late, albeit sheepishly) cannot tarnish Viv&#039;s legacy and standing. For those who have only seen Sachin bat and not Viv, well, they have no bloody idea what the man was about - not to take anything away from Sachin, but he is yet to have the kind of intimidating presence Richards had (except for a period in the &#039;90s). True, Richards was part of the greatest side of all time, and that has to be factored in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead thread, yet&#8230;</p>
<p>Good points some, GB, but I fail to see how Viv&#8217;s style &#8216;ultimately failed him&#8217;. Viv averaged 50+ in tests IIRC and 47+ in ODIs, while not losing any opportunity to dominate attacks. Your comment about his shot selection in &#8217;83 smacks of revisionism, in my opinion. Comparisons are ultimately futile, but a million journeymen like Roebuck (who&#8217;s been apologising for his gaffe of late, albeit sheepishly) cannot tarnish Viv&#8217;s legacy and standing. For those who have only seen Sachin bat and not Viv, well, they have no bloody idea what the man was about &#8211; not to take anything away from Sachin, but he is yet to have the kind of intimidating presence Richards had (except for a period in the &#8217;90s). True, Richards was part of the greatest side of all time, and that has to be factored in.</p>
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		<title>By: kiru</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Bong, Excellent unbiased argument..wanted to write about the adaptability of sachin when all my friends spoke about his slefish attitude..But reading through this post made me realise that I dont have to do that.. There is a link that I can forward them to..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Bong, Excellent unbiased argument..wanted to write about the adaptability of sachin when all my friends spoke about his slefish attitude..But reading through this post made me realise that I dont have to do that.. There is a link that I can forward them to..</p>
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		<title>By: rahul</title>
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		<dc:creator>rahul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Sehwag today is feared more by the opposition than SRT...oh, am sure you can provide all the sound bytes in the world about SRT being God and all that. 

Kapil, without belittling SRT, said what is actually quite true. And like someone mentioned above, until Ganguly came the same SRT did not do too much to win matches for India on a consistent basis. 

Gavaskar paved the way initially by building up the Indian psyche. He knew we may not be able to win matches as we were really short on quality bowlers, well until Kapil Dev at least, but he ensured that we lost as few matches as possible. Much later, Ganguly led a young team to blv we can win too. SO maybe, just maybe, India should be thankful to Gavaskar and Ganguly for teaching us not to lose first, and then win.

SRT for all his talents, has not lived upto his potential in Test matches. Someone can look up the numbers on his second inning scores and match it with the results of the Test matches.

Of course, in One day&#039;s he has been spectacular...intermittently, but still India did not win too many series or championships..for someone who is considered to be God...that definitely is a shortcoming. And if you look at the number of times India has played in the Finals of a major championship...it was certainly a collective effort from the team...I know..I know..you guys will mention Sharjah (prolly one tournament that was won by one man alone)...but what else?

Well he has all sort of records to his name..but yet, he has under-achieved IMHO.

Cheers,
Rahul

PS: Using the number of overs must equal to so many runs by Kapil to deny the truth in his write-up is kinda not seeing the larger picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Sehwag today is feared more by the opposition than SRT&#8230;oh, am sure you can provide all the sound bytes in the world about SRT being God and all that. </p>
<p>Kapil, without belittling SRT, said what is actually quite true. And like someone mentioned above, until Ganguly came the same SRT did not do too much to win matches for India on a consistent basis. </p>
<p>Gavaskar paved the way initially by building up the Indian psyche. He knew we may not be able to win matches as we were really short on quality bowlers, well until Kapil Dev at least, but he ensured that we lost as few matches as possible. Much later, Ganguly led a young team to blv we can win too. SO maybe, just maybe, India should be thankful to Gavaskar and Ganguly for teaching us not to lose first, and then win.</p>
<p>SRT for all his talents, has not lived upto his potential in Test matches. Someone can look up the numbers on his second inning scores and match it with the results of the Test matches.</p>
<p>Of course, in One day&#8217;s he has been spectacular&#8230;intermittently, but still India did not win too many series or championships..for someone who is considered to be God&#8230;that definitely is a shortcoming. And if you look at the number of times India has played in the Finals of a major championship&#8230;it was certainly a collective effort from the team&#8230;I know..I know..you guys will mention Sharjah (prolly one tournament that was won by one man alone)&#8230;but what else?</p>
<p>Well he has all sort of records to his name..but yet, he has under-achieved IMHO.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Rahul</p>
<p>PS: Using the number of overs must equal to so many runs by Kapil to deny the truth in his write-up is kinda not seeing the larger picture.</p>
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		<title>By: kaangeya</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2009/11/18/sachin-the-underperformer/#comment-769182</link>
		<dc:creator>kaangeya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arnab,
 While your cohort grew up in the Sachin years, mine is a decade older.  In those days Indian cricketers puzzled (spinners), charmed (Sunny/Vishy/Pat etc) and once in a while delivered.  And then came along Kapil Dev, who banished a few things forever.  He showed that to tackle pace you not only need technique but also raw courage.  Next he showed that you give as good as you get.  In his debut series in Pakistan when Sarfaraz Nawaz treated his as a tailender during the Sahiwal ODI, Kapil waited for the next test in Karachi when he first carted Sarfaraz round the park and then sent down an entire over of whupaxx deliberately not taking him out so that he could toy with him.  Imran didn&#039;t learn the lesson and still with his Nawabi elan carried his attitude to India until in the Chennai test one evening, Kapil smashed hooked an Imran bouncer for a six.  Kapil was a vastly more versatile bowler and performed stock and strike with equal application.  I have seen him share the ball with Venkat all afternoon, tirelessly grinding down WI, building enough frustration in them to strike the next day and skittle them out.  The man had heart and soul, and never once gave the idea of having anything but the team on his mind.  Yes he and Sunny did not get along at one time, and yes they have put it behind them and are best of friends today.

So when Kapil talks of the kind of batsman SRT could have been he has a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arnab,<br />
 While your cohort grew up in the Sachin years, mine is a decade older.  In those days Indian cricketers puzzled (spinners), charmed (Sunny/Vishy/Pat etc) and once in a while delivered.  And then came along Kapil Dev, who banished a few things forever.  He showed that to tackle pace you not only need technique but also raw courage.  Next he showed that you give as good as you get.  In his debut series in Pakistan when Sarfaraz Nawaz treated his as a tailender during the Sahiwal ODI, Kapil waited for the next test in Karachi when he first carted Sarfaraz round the park and then sent down an entire over of whupaxx deliberately not taking him out so that he could toy with him.  Imran didn&#8217;t learn the lesson and still with his Nawabi elan carried his attitude to India until in the Chennai test one evening, Kapil smashed hooked an Imran bouncer for a six.  Kapil was a vastly more versatile bowler and performed stock and strike with equal application.  I have seen him share the ball with Venkat all afternoon, tirelessly grinding down WI, building enough frustration in them to strike the next day and skittle them out.  The man had heart and soul, and never once gave the idea of having anything but the team on his mind.  Yes he and Sunny did not get along at one time, and yes they have put it behind them and are best of friends today.</p>
<p>So when Kapil talks of the kind of batsman SRT could have been he has a point.</p>
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		<title>By: su</title>
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		<dc:creator>su</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gb -&gt; analyst.
&quot;Your advice would perhaps be more applicable for you&quot;

are we witnessing the writer snapping at someone who made a harsh comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gb -&gt; analyst.<br />
&#8220;Your advice would perhaps be more applicable for you&#8221;</p>
<p>are we witnessing the writer snapping at someone who made a harsh comment?</p>
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		<title>By: Yash</title>
		<link>http://greatbong.net/2009/11/18/sachin-the-underperformer/#comment-769045</link>
		<dc:creator>Yash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kapil, post his retirement years has shown an incredibly poor &#039;shot&#039; selection, when it comes to his views and choices. From taking up the chairmanship of the doomed to fail ICL, to comments  that are invariably at odds with the public mood, he seems to be on a diffrene tplanet half the time. An obvious factor is the fact that he could never uite be the superstar off the field as some of his contemporaries like Gavaskar and Shastri became.

And yes, for all his carps, he has caused more than his fair share of frustration for his fans too. And let&#039;s face it, in his times, an India win was rare enough to be cherished , even if the series scoreline read 2-1 or 301 or 4-2 or whatever. Today, a series scroeline on the wrong end is never acceptable to fans here. And Sachin has played no small role in changing their expectations. Give him credit for that at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kapil, post his retirement years has shown an incredibly poor &#8216;shot&#8217; selection, when it comes to his views and choices. From taking up the chairmanship of the doomed to fail ICL, to comments  that are invariably at odds with the public mood, he seems to be on a diffrene tplanet half the time. An obvious factor is the fact that he could never uite be the superstar off the field as some of his contemporaries like Gavaskar and Shastri became.</p>
<p>And yes, for all his carps, he has caused more than his fair share of frustration for his fans too. And let&#8217;s face it, in his times, an India win was rare enough to be cherished , even if the series scoreline read 2-1 or 301 or 4-2 or whatever. Today, a series scroeline on the wrong end is never acceptable to fans here. And Sachin has played no small role in changing their expectations. Give him credit for that at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I would like to say is that if Sachin had played like Kapil wanted him to we would have had one more Virender Sehwag thats it - Dangerous batsman who can score either 300 or get out on 0. And then as aptly put by the Greatbong, India would not have been in such a position as we are now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I would like to say is that if Sachin had played like Kapil wanted him to we would have had one more Virender Sehwag thats it &#8211; Dangerous batsman who can score either 300 or get out on 0. And then as aptly put by the Greatbong, India would not have been in such a position as we are now.</p>
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		<title>By: Abhishek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abhishek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;if he had tried to remain the destroyer Kapil Dev wanted him to be all his life, he might be today in the Big Boss house like one of his  prodigiously talented friends fighting for infamy with  a bunch of washed-out faux-celebrities&quot;

The post was nice and interesting but the end seemed somewhat harsh and judgmental on Kambli. I can&#039;t help but feel sorry for him and am saddened by the weird thought that if ever read the above lines it would leave him a much broken man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if he had tried to remain the destroyer Kapil Dev wanted him to be all his life, he might be today in the Big Boss house like one of his  prodigiously talented friends fighting for infamy with  a bunch of washed-out faux-celebrities&#8221;</p>
<p>The post was nice and interesting but the end seemed somewhat harsh and judgmental on Kambli. I can&#8217;t help but feel sorry for him and am saddened by the weird thought that if ever read the above lines it would leave him a much broken man.</p>
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