Comments on: Why I Oppose The Ban On The Veil http://greatbong.net/2010/07/14/why-i-oppose-the-ban-on-the-veil/ Thu, 24 May 2012 09:06:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Anonymous http://greatbong.net/2010/07/14/why-i-oppose-the-ban-on-the-veil/#comment-1141900 Anonymous Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:19:37 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=11944#comment-1141900 I see many posts debating endlessly about a muslim womon's choice to wear burqa and comparing it with some remote cases where hindu widows preferred sati-sahagaman. So, Burqa and Sati as EQUIVALENT practices from Muslim and Hindu sides? That's a moronic comparisn. One is supposed to give protection to a living woman while the other one is to rid her family of a liability. I'll give you a not-so-ancient Hindu practice that was chosen by most Hindu women because it gave them security(just like Burqa). After the Sati system was abolished, Hindu Widows (especially in south and west) were asked to shave their heads and resort to temple/midwife/kitchen duties ONLY. The idea was to make them sexually unattractive to men and thus prevent family dishonor. Anyway, A blanket ban is never a good solution to any problem in a democracy. I would still support a ban of extreme burqa because it poses a security issue. I see many posts debating endlessly about a muslim womon’s choice to wear burqa and comparing it with some remote cases where hindu widows preferred sati-sahagaman.
So, Burqa and Sati as EQUIVALENT practices from Muslim and Hindu sides?
That’s a moronic comparisn. One is supposed to give protection to a living woman while the other one is to rid her family of a liability.

I’ll give you a not-so-ancient Hindu practice that was chosen by most Hindu women because it gave them security(just like Burqa). After the Sati system was abolished, Hindu Widows (especially in south and west) were asked to shave their heads and resort to temple/midwife/kitchen duties ONLY. The idea was to make them sexually unattractive to men and thus prevent family dishonor.

Anyway, A blanket ban is never a good solution to any problem in a democracy.
I would still support a ban of extreme burqa because it poses a security issue.

]]> By: D http://greatbong.net/2010/07/14/why-i-oppose-the-ban-on-the-veil/#comment-929933 D Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:57:03 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=11944#comment-929933 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3YQANdvvbY&feature=player_embedded#at=269 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3YQANdvvbY&feature=player_embedded#at=269

]]> By: Sanket http://greatbong.net/2010/07/14/why-i-oppose-the-ban-on-the-veil/#comment-869184 Sanket Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:21:17 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=11944#comment-869184 Well has there anyone who came and said they wanted to be burnt alive? No. It doesnt happen because self-preservation is a basic human instinct. ------ Millions of people voluntarily sign for military duty knowing it is risky. Do they have no sense of self-preservation? If one glances at the history and looks at WW1 and WW2, one can see that hundreds of thousands of young man had voluntarily sacrificed their lives. So what is the problem in accepting that during the 2,000 year old history of India some 8,000 woman (stats from Wikipedia) wanted to be burnt alive. As being a Sati was a matter of glory, the statistics are probably overstates. The Sati became a goddess. Through death she attained divinity. It was believed that through the act of being Sati, a woman ensured that 7 generations of her family and her husband's family went to heaven. Given such a background, is it a wonder that some woman became Sati voluntarily? Is bravery only confined to Western man not Indian woman? Well has there anyone who came and said they wanted to be burnt alive? No. It doesnt happen because self-preservation is a basic human instinct.
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Millions of people voluntarily sign for military duty knowing it is risky. Do they have no sense of self-preservation? If one glances at the history and looks at WW1 and WW2, one can see that hundreds of thousands of young man had voluntarily sacrificed their lives. So what is the problem in accepting that during the 2,000 year old history of India some 8,000 woman (stats from Wikipedia) wanted to be burnt alive. As being a Sati was a matter of glory, the statistics are probably overstates.

The Sati became a goddess. Through death she attained divinity. It was believed that through the act of being Sati, a woman ensured that 7 generations of her family and her husband’s family went to heaven.

Given such a background, is it a wonder that some woman became Sati voluntarily? Is bravery only confined to Western man not Indian woman?

]]> By: Anonymous http://greatbong.net/2010/07/14/why-i-oppose-the-ban-on-the-veil/#comment-858978 Anonymous Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:55:37 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=11944#comment-858978 The reasons purported by the French government for the ban do go against the ethos of a free society, however the Burqa should be banned because it is a legitimate security threat. Even Syria, a Muslim country, has implemented a ban on it (or at least are discussing the possibility) in certain spheres of public life. The reasons purported by the French government for the ban do go against the ethos of a free society, however the Burqa should be banned because it is a legitimate security threat. Even Syria, a Muslim country, has implemented a ban on it (or at least are discussing the possibility) in certain spheres of public life.

]]> By: Amit Choudhury http://greatbong.net/2010/07/14/why-i-oppose-the-ban-on-the-veil/#comment-853545 Amit Choudhury Mon, 30 Aug 2010 06:31:44 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=11944#comment-853545 Let me put it this way,I wouldnt board a flight if a couple of unidentified burkha clad women got on too, or for that matter some burly sword and kirpan carrying Sikhs. Let me put it this way,I wouldnt board a flight if a couple of unidentified burkha clad women got on too, or for that matter some burly sword and kirpan carrying Sikhs.

]]> By: Bengal Voice http://greatbong.net/2010/07/14/why-i-oppose-the-ban-on-the-veil/#comment-849393 Bengal Voice Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:17:56 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=11944#comment-849393 OMG. Somebody stop the French...Their proposed law is going to hurt the feelings of polygamists. <b> <a href="http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/aug/09/after-burqa-france-plans-to-ban-polygamy.htm" rel="nofollow">After burqa, France plans to ban polygamy</a> OMG. Somebody stop the French…Their proposed law is going to hurt the feelings of polygamists.


After burqa, France plans to ban polygamy

]]> By: Bengal Voice http://greatbong.net/2010/07/14/why-i-oppose-the-ban-on-the-veil/#comment-848846 Bengal Voice Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:04:53 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=11944#comment-848846 It looks like the Brits are catching on.... What in the world is going on? <b> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/02/poll-islam-negative-britain </b> It looks like the Brits are catching on…. What in the world is going on?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/02/poll-islam-negative-britain

]]> By: Avik Gupta http://greatbong.net/2010/07/14/why-i-oppose-the-ban-on-the-veil/#comment-848604 Avik Gupta Tue, 03 Aug 2010 06:57:04 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=11944#comment-848604 Interesting, but a little naive i felt (unlike the usual posts), to take such a strong stand. I've been reading The Argumentative Indian by Amartya Sen where he did happen to mention the French ban. I, myself, do not know a lot about it, but felt what he had written made sense. The western idea of secularism is quite different from India's. In India secularism means treating all religions at par, whereas in the West it means that the state does not favour any religion in particular. Considering this it does make sense for the french to ban the Burqa( although I do not personally see the need for it ). Also, as many people have pointed out before, and endorsed by Dr. Sen, many girls do it not just out of free will but out of pressure from their families and other reasons, but yes, that does need to be investigated before taking such a strong step. But yes, after reading this post I did realise the rather obvious reason for the govt's decision, since it is a sure shot way of pleasing the locals who post 9/11 have become skeptical about anything islamic. P.S. NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE (people are very eager to get offended these days) Interesting, but a little naive i felt (unlike the usual posts), to take such a strong stand. I’ve been reading The Argumentative Indian by Amartya Sen where he did happen to mention the French ban. I, myself, do not know a lot about it, but felt what he had written made sense. The western idea of secularism is quite different from India’s. In India secularism means treating all religions at par, whereas in the West it means that the state does not favour any religion in particular. Considering this it does make sense for the french to ban the Burqa( although I do not personally see the need for it ). Also, as many people have pointed out before, and endorsed by Dr. Sen, many girls do it not just out of free will but out of pressure from their families and other reasons, but yes, that does need to be investigated before taking such a strong step. But yes, after reading this post I did realise the rather obvious reason for the govt’s decision, since it is a sure shot way of pleasing the locals who post 9/11 have become skeptical about anything islamic.

P.S. NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE (people are very eager to get offended these days)

]]> By: Ankit Poddar http://greatbong.net/2010/07/14/why-i-oppose-the-ban-on-the-veil/#comment-848432 Ankit Poddar Mon, 02 Aug 2010 05:43:46 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=11944#comment-848432 @Justice You got involved first in the discussion about the analogy extended by Rishi Khujur. You better not blame me for diverting the discussion. And do not get carried away and do not call me a moron. Kindly exhibit some sense of mutual respect and decorum in a discussion. @Justice

You got involved first in the discussion about the analogy extended by Rishi Khujur.

You better not blame me for diverting the discussion.

And do not get carried away and do not call me a moron. Kindly exhibit some sense of mutual respect and decorum in a discussion.

]]> By: Rishi Khujoor http://greatbong.net/2010/07/14/why-i-oppose-the-ban-on-the-veil/#comment-848157 Rishi Khujoor Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:10:17 +0000 http://greatbong.net/?p=11944#comment-848157 @ Anirban Do read my post. The Sun is part of the discussion when you talk of global warming. @ Anirban
Do read my post.
The Sun is part of the discussion when you talk of global warming.

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