A landmark judgement was delivered today in that the courts ruled that kissing in public by an young married couple is not obscene. [Link]
It is inconceivable how, even if one were to take what is stated in the FIR to be true, an expression of love by a young married couple would attract offence of obscenity and trigger the coercive process of law,”
[Music: Main talli main talli main talli ho gayeee]
Presenter: Welcome to GBTV’s special panel where we discuss public kisses, pub culture and whether the initiative to “ban” talli girls would create a “Talli-ban” culture in India.
Tonight we have with us lawyer Inderjit Chaddha famous for being on the losing side of the Damini case and whose business motto is “Sue karo, sue karo, karo soo soo” with a specialization in screwing pesky bloggers, typical park-bench-old-man Mr. Damle (65), confirmed bachelor Chowbey Sahab (45) and “Ugly-Pagli” Anjali Devi (undisclosed age) from the local Mahila Mandal.
Let’s start with you typical park-bench-old-man Mr. Damle.
“Why do you think the honorable judge has specifically mentioned an “young couple”? Why specifically do you think that old couples have been left out of the ambit of this judgement?”
Mr. Damle: “Hah. That’s because old and middle-aged married couples do not kiss each other in public. They hardly kiss each other in private. Trust me, after a few years even a Fighter Bidi feels smoother on your lips than those of the old hag’s. Hah. And if you ever catch a slightly older couple kissing in public, let me tell you they may be married but not to each other. ”
Now Chowbey sahab, TOI says:
The newly married duo was picked up by ASI Vidhyadhar Singh of Dwarka police station on September 4 last year after he claimed to have found them “sitting in an objectionable position near a Metro pillar and kissing each other due to which passersby were feeling bad.”
What are your thoughts on this issue?
Chowbey sahab: “Of course people have a right to feel bad. What this couple was doing was just like eating a five-course dinner in front of starving children of Somalia. If that is not a vulgarity, then what is.”
Anjali Devi [interrupting]: “I think we are missing the point here. What is most important is that a recognition has been made of the need for society and law to distinguish between expressions of love between married couples and between immoral love-birds who go about singing “Kahe do to aaj duniya se, aaj baja doon band, tu mera boyfriend main tera girlfriend” and then do a lot of “gaana” and definitely “bajanaa”. We may suck at catching terrorists or murderers but it is imperative that full police resources be devoted to checking that every man and woman that walk within two feet of each other are either brother-sister or husband-wife. ”
Mr. Chadda, what is your legal opinion on this?
Inderjit Chadda: I would first like to read out the following quote.
Speaking to Times City, the advocate explained, “Obscenity charges get attracted when the act is so obscene that it encourages depravity or annoys the public
By this definition, some may claim that those women attacked and molested in the pub in Mangalore should be charged with obscenity. First of all, they definitely annoyed the public( the public who leer at women going into bars and dream that they can have them) by not dancing with the aforementioned public. And thus by ignoring them, they definitely encouraged the depravity that followed.
Chowbey sahab: You must understand that pubs are not part of Indian culture. Village women in India never have liquor and will never dance around with men. That happens only in the West. I am glad that these men from Ram Sena really defined what Indian culture truly is by beating, kicking helpless women. I am afraid not many people understand this.
I am glad to note that for once our politicians are on the right side. Gehlot sahab has said that girls and boys holding hands is not proper. I agree. The only time girls and boys may hold hands is when they play “Ringa ringa roses pocket full of poses” but only later if they do not “all fall down” on each other in a “husha husha” fashion.
Mr. Damle: And you must understand that girls should be kept out of pubs for their protection only. As this ex-DIG says: “After drinking, boys lose their controls and can be doing anything to girls”. I mean having been a boy myself once, I totally agree.
Chowbey sahab: I would like to point out that the majority of Indians agree with us. The Chief Minister of Karnataka has vowed to stop pub culture in the state. Its only people who stay in flats who condone this kind of behavior and fail to see why it’s my business as well as yours to protect our “culture” , to ensure that young people do not commit the same sins that I could never commit, despite my best efforts. In this respect, I totally agree with Valke sahab, 40 year old patriot who had learnt everything there was to learn in this world by Class 5, and his friends.
These girls come from all over India, drink, smoke, and walk around in the night spoiling the traditional girls of Mangalore. A girl from Punjab was drugged, raped, and killed last month. There was no hue and cry then. Why should girls go to pubs? Are they going to serve their future husbands alcohol? Should they not be learning to make chapattis? Bars and pubs should be for men only. We wanted to ensure that all women in Mangalore are home by 7 pm,” says Pravin Valke a 40-year-old, fifth-standard drop-out, who is a founding member of the Sri Rama Sene. [Link]
And what I like about these people is how they have expressed their shock and disgust at the debauchery all around with dignity and restraint in consonance with the Indian culture they so claim to love.
One of his associates boasts of an incident where they made some girls urinate in their pants after threatening to beat them up for going around with boys from other communities. “No one dares to tease girls. No one plays loud music in cars around colleges,” he says. [Link]
Stopping girls from being teased by making girls urinate in their pants….now that’s some Indian culture. Kya idea sirji. It should make all of us so proud.
Presenter: That’s all the time we have folks. Coming up after these commercial messages, is a special hidden-camera report on loo breaks (Yeh I loo I loo kya hain yeh I loo) and their significance for Indian democracy.