Pakistan Round Up

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Today’s Pakistan round up.

In days of yore, warring nations like the Rajputs and the Mughals would bring peace in their times as well as opportunities for making crappy historical dramas for directors hundreds of years down the line with matrimonial alliances. In that spirit of love conquers war, this week saw the announcing of the baap of all Aman-Asha initiatives—-the proposed marriage between the spokesman of “all Muslims of the world” Pakistani cricketer Shoaib Malik (banned) and the over-rated hottie tennis queen Sania Mirza.

The happy couple came today in front of cameras and informed the world of their desire to settle down in Dubai together, indeed a place that has given us many ambassadors of India-Pakistan unity like the Big D. While Shoaib Malik’s fans rejoiced (all three of them) and Sania’s admirers reluctantly deleted her “taken in action” pictures from their head drives, relationship experts warned Sania to be careful with her service and foot-placement since she would now be subject to ejection if she triple-faults.

Shoaib Malik has been trying to become a damaad of India for long (including a fling with Sayali Bhagat) showing the kind of tenacity one usually associates with Pakistani peace-ambassadors trying to cross the boundary at Kashmir. A few years ago, Shoaib Malik was reported to have married one Ayesha (picture to side), a fact that Malik hotly denied in the same manner that Pakistan denies its role in 26/11 and the fact that it has had its ass handed to it in 1971 and 1999. Ayesha’s father in this television interview asserts that even Arun Lal had said “Oh Mr Shoaib Malik I forgot to congratulate you on your marriage” and if Mr. Lal had indeed said that then it is a case of “Tu mujhe qabool, main tujhe qabool, is baat ka gawaah khuda (khuda being of course Arun Lal), according to legal and religious experts.

While things are looking lovey lovey for Shoaib, his bete noire Mohammed Yousuf announced his retirement, livid at the ban on him by the PCB. Now knowing Yousuf who has difficulty in making up his mind (once he is a Christian, once he is a Muslim, once he is playing for ICL, then he is playing for IPL and then he is playing for ICL again) one does not know if the decision to retire, like a resignation of Mamata Banerjee, will stand. Meanwhile rumors that a man by the name of Mahesh Phadke, looking suspiciously like Mohammed Yousuf, has approached the Pune IPL franchise as a “local Marathi Manoos” and demanded a reserved place in the side along with a payment of USD 500,000 has not yet been confirmed.

Concluding our section on Pakistan, Shahid Afridi won the ESPN Star cricketer of the decade award, a remarkable achievement for the man considering that for three years into the decade, he hadnt even been born and Javed Mianded claimed to have received threatening calls of extortion from the mafia. which was later found to have been the result of a silly mistake by his sambdhi-ji who got mixed up between two numbers. The whole confusion was detected when a certain film-financier asked the man at the other end of the line “But bhai why do you keep inviting me for Jamai Shashti?” at which point of time, the “call switch” was amicably resolved between all the parties concerned.

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  1. iPod finally!

    “A few years ago, Shoaib Malik was reported to have married one Ayesha (picture to side), a fact that Malik hotly denied in the same manner that Pakistan denies its role in 26/11 and the fact that it has had its ass handed to it in 1971 and 1999.”

    Too good! 🙂

  2. did Sachin Tendulkar retire in 1999 ?

    how the hell did Shahid Afridi win ????

    was it for those players who debuted in the noughties ?
    or for those who were born in this decade as you pointed out astutely???

  3. Sania Mirza is plain stupid to do this.
    one news you missed is tat the PTF chief now wants sania to play for pakistan.

  4. I actually get to b the fourth comment…yeaaa..first time for me. GB your comment on the aman asha of shoaib and sania is a class act…jamai shoshti indeed.

  5. Dear Arnab
    i have being a silent reader of your blog for some time now (mainly a couple of months) and each day digging out ur archives and getting a literary genius in hand is like a treasure hunt…truly enjoy all ur blogs 🙂

    Last evening, had being to Crosswords, in Vashi, Mumbai excluisvely for your book and have bought it !
    a hot cuppa & ur book is a heavenly combo, or so i expereinced last night..
    thank you for the laughs, and Good luck for the success of the book !

    Payoshni

  6. Now that the competition is over on the comments here for the iPod, I have a point to say.

    I don’t have any problem with the rights of people choosing their partners. However, problem arises when a public figure marries another public figure from a country bent upon destroying India. Even that could have been overlooked had the man himself had been squeaky clean on his views on India.

    This is the same man who insulted Indian Muslims (including Sania herself) when he apologized to ‘all Muslims in the world’ for losing the first T20 WC Final to India.

    This is the man from the same team who has members like Sohail Tanvir who said on TV that Hinduon ki zeheniyat hi aisi hoti hai (Hindus are deceitful and disrespectful by character) after the IPL snub.

    Is personal liberty paramount over national sensibilities? If that is the case, we should not even react even if an Indian chooses to marry Hafiz Saeed.

  7. Nice post, is there a forum to discuss the book? Bought it on flipcart 7 days ago, got it 3 days ago, finished it yesterday and now ready to discuss it :). But none of my friends have read it till now so need a forum.

  8. Shahid Afridi won the ESPN Star cricketer of the decade award?

    Which decade?

    the criteria was may be that “he survived in the team as an all-rounder” in spite of “closest bowling and batting averages in test cricket” or “bowling average being higher than the batting average in ODIs”

  9. 8th Post. Can I get IPOD charger?

    Couple of filmi dialgues for Sania and Shoaib Malik

    @Sania Mirza:
    “Main tumhe bhool jaaon yeh ho nahin sakta, aur tum mujhe bhool jao ye main hone nahi doonga” (Suneil Shetty to Shilpa in Dhadkan)

    @Shoaib Malik:
    “Aisi jagah marunga, na khud utth payega, na kuch uttha payega” (Isha Koppikar in Kya Kool Hai Hum)

  10. [edited by GB]
    BTW, while Sania’s ex-fiancee spent Rs.10 lakh on their engagement, Shoaib is planning to spend Rs. 1 crore…..no ipods for guessing why Sania chose one ‘S’ over the other!

  11. Awesome …..and the first thing that came to my mind, when I read about Shoaib Malik and Sania Mirza’s would be marriage recently, was his comment thanking all Muslims of the world for their support to the Pakistan cricket team. World T20 finals, that was.

    And the film financier bit was just too good!!

    And whats it with Shoaib Malik and Hyderabadi girls??

  12. @vikram:liked your take on befitting dialogoes…here some contri from my side on beffiting songs

    @Afridi: Ball khaye saiyya humaro…saawli surat…hoth lal lal

    @Miandad: Aaj humare dil mein aajab si uljhan hai…phone ki ghanti baji…saamne sambdhi hai!!! (Aptly title Hum aapke Hain Koun)

    @Mohammad Yousuf Youhanna: Tu Isaai Banega Na Mussalman Banega, Insaan ki Aulad hai Insaan banega!!

    @Sania: kisi aur ke saajan ki saheli ho gayi (from a cheapo movie called obvously Saajan Ki Saheli)

    @Shoaib: khatun ki hidmat mein salaam apun ka…potti patana hai…hai potti patana hai …kaam apun ka (amitabh to hema in naseeb)

  13. @GB,

    [edited]
    yeah! its your blog and I understand that you could piss on it if it pleases you

    GB adds: Yes it is my blog and the thing is YOU are not free to piss on it. Thank you.

  14. Jayanta,

    I don’t agree with your conclusion.

    Sania wants to marry Shoaib. We are not responsible for her. Her partner is her choice why bring India Pakistan relations in it. As some said on FB on a Faikng News update – “Rahim milai jodi, ek andha ek kodi”.

    “Is personal liberty paramount over national sensibilities? If that is the case, we should not even react even if an Indian chooses to marry Hafiz Saeed.”

    Pretty much.

    Monica Bedi married(?) that gangster fellow. I don’t see any great outrage now that she is trying to claw her way back in public life.

    As a nation what is our position on Miandad? He is after all samdhi of the big D. Does that make him ‘persona non grata’ in India?
    On the contrary a lot of people, old enough to remember, dislike him for the last ball 6 more than for his relationship with D.

    This entire reaction is because Sania is famous. There was no outrage when Sayali B or this GB lookalike were getting up, close and personal with Malik.

  15. Great post! Anyway, what is new? Girls from hyderabad have been marrying and going to Dubai in tons even in the seventies (wasnt there a film about it?). Dubai as you said, seems to be a place for all indo pak couples.
    However, getting married on the phone seems to be far fetched. You can do pretty much everything on the phone except marry in my opinion..

  16. I’ve never cared much for Sania. Strangely enough, this news makes me want her so bad.

    Can any of the ladies clarify what is it about Pakistani cricketers (Imran Khan and Jemima, that guy married to Amrita Arora)?

    It’s pretty funny to watch the Pakistanis celebrating with glee. You’d think the latest UN aid package had arrived. So third world…

    @bvindh
    Chill out dude, don’t act like you’re having your period.

  17. The youtube clips of pakistani media are riotous 😛 . and so is the mostly abusive discussion that follows , laced with bawdy jokes. and yes, the message boards on ‘a popular indian site’ are just too funny . **BEEP** both of ’em. this has been some real good entertainment 🙂 .

  18. Nice, but you missed the priceless quote in HT and Rediff 😉

    Shoaib “Malik was earlier accused of marrying another Hyderabad girl, Ayesha Siddiqui, in 2002 over the phone…”

    Horrible sentence-construction or phoneshaadi.com?

  19. @kabali m

    guess you are an expert on the subject of periods(may be you personally experienced them).
    sure! chill out

  20. Baap of all marriages i must admit. Do you realise what will happen if Sania plays for Pakistan next year. We can surely expect World War 3. i feel we are heading for some major difficult times in this Asha initiative. Whatever the case, i hope the relationship survives and something good comes out of it. Else we are in for some major cross border allegations and the news channels will be served barbecue with the red hot hyderabad sauce(which is green). I am sure GB will get many more opportunities to take a dig at his fav cricket team in the coming days. Rise and shine everyone. We are in for some fabulous entertainment.

  21. Another great, direct, NHB post from the great bong. But dude sometimes your sentences are far to long (take the opening one for e.g.) Maybe its just me. Nevertheless, good job

  22. @bvindh
    I understand that you might have survived 3 riots and I completely sympathize with you. But this is not the appropriate forum to vent your frustration.

    @GB
    Good post. But it’s so straightforward. The signature razor-sharp humor is missing.

  23. There are a lot of idiots leaving comments here.

    You, sir, author of the blog: your views on Pakistan are highly ignorant. Please grow up a little.

  24. Overheard this:-
    Arun Lal- ” Mian, Aapki pehli shaadi to phone par hui thi , ye kya e-mail se hogi?”
    Shoaib-” Jee nahi janab, hamare yahan ti shadiyaan sirf female se hi hoti hain.”

    Sania…..for this git???????

    Also,
    Sania Mirza has repeatedly said after the engagements that she will continue to play in the opens , Asia cup and Olympics under the flag of India, to which some body at Wimbledon replied after having seen enough,” But for that matter Madam, you have to qualify first.”
    And yes, the chief of Pakistan Tennis Council says that he will not force Sania to play tennis for Pakistan. Just like they will not force Taliban to lay down arms and they will not force Hafiz Sayeed to stop whoring around for new recruits. But , then with Sania, anything except getting past the first round is possible. Wonder what will happen if in pak she takes up the sport of Merry Go Round.

  25. “relationship experts warned Sania to be careful with her service and foot-placement since she would now be subject to ejection if she triple-faults.”

    OUCH! So subtle; so evil! LOOVE it!

  26. My comments gone GB…dont you think porn site based on paki/muslim characters is a great idea for misguided teens in pakistan.

  27. Just Sourav has scord in only one match and some media again strtd pastrd what wll hpn just show how poor DADU is playing people r so angry wiht him otaaak laathi merey pathano dorkar please write somethng how fake we bengalees become

    Aaamar kaku bolchilo My uncle staying Saltlake saying his illegly made school is Saltlake shud destroyd by bulldozer BULLdozer diye guriey deuaa dorkar koto poisaa kaamache where as Aaamr maashi bolchilo or Restrurant giye sob khabar and furniture niye aashcey amar ek dada got so angry that he claim uchit chilo stepen court a na aagun lege or Restorai aaagun lagley chilo bhalo i dont how Ganguly bcm so unpoplr among alll

  28. Heard someone say – “sania will deliver juicy half-volleys for shoaib to belt them”. Sounded BDSM to me.

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  30. A nice blog to read and enjoy. I fully agree with “Jayanta Bhattacharya”.
    Is Sania that desperate to get married?
    Could not she find one good muslim boy in India (I guess many eligible men are here in India out of 160.9 million muslims) and say in Pak too.
    I don’t see anything wrong marrying any Paki guy but this SM, who thinks any game should be played by different religions and not nations, a total loser. It’s really disgusting to hear this news.

  31. @Sujoy
    “..Could not she find one good muslim boy in India..”
    By your logic there are no good Hindu guys – Padma Lakshmi.

  32. Sujoy! Good to see you, my friend. How are you doing? And wow — there are some serious comments here. What struck me after reading them is that the problems between India and Pakistan will take much longer to resolve if ordinary people like us continue to battle head-on in real and virtual life. It is understandable when politicians, who are known for being corrupt and selfish continue to create battles to meet their own ends, but for intelligent people in the 21st century to do so is rather disappointing.

    One continues to hope.

  33. while criticizing the other end of the spectrum ( i hope you know what i mean ), there is always a line or a paraphrase as to what the shiv sena or the bjp is doing and then again you criticize the congress and sometimes even the cpi(m). ain’t you confused dude ??? if you love the country so much, why dont you stop earning the big buck for your ” yankee ” employer , get out of your swanky appartment and work for the masses ??? its very easy for you to give a view staying thousands of miles away, but when it come to actually doing the shit, you are better off staying away from the reality. i hope your books are selling like hot cakes, why dont you adopt some villages in the state you love so much with the royalty money, that would be a start.

  34. Shoaib Malik- Ye meri zindagi bejan laash thi barso se pyar ko jiski talash thi bas aaj mujhko khoyi takdeer mil gayi teri TASVEER mil gayi(song from Betaab)after getting photo of Ayesha from email.

    Shoaib Malik- Tujhe apna saathi banane se pehle meri jaan mujhko bahut sochna hai(song from pyar jhukta nahi) after meeting Ayesha.

    Ayesha- Chehra kya dekhte ho dil me utar kar dekho na dekho na(song from salaami)

    Sania- Bhala hai bura hai jaisa bhi hai mera pati mera devta hai.

  35. Probable invitees in Shoaib-Sania marriage.

    Md.Azharuddin- Famous patriot cricketer from Hyderabad.His efforts against betting with Late Hansie Cronje and Salim Malik has helped the three nation’s police come together. He is now continuing his services to the people of Moradabad from where he is M.P. Shoaib being a pakistani admires the examples set by the legandary cricketer.

    Javed Miandad- Famous paki cricketer whose samdhiji is a well known social worker from india(after all he has helped India in reducing population by his bomb planting leadership skills)now he is in a deputation at pakistan getting indepth training from the innocent ISI.

    Shahrukh Khan- His love and concern for the neighbouring country cricket team is widely acclaimed by the leaders of the two country.After all he is messiah for the Shoaibs,yousufs and younus.Everyone knows his name is Khan and he is not a terrorist.

    Dilip Kumar(Yousuf Bhai)- His Nishan e pakistan award reflects his love towards the peace loving neighbour.His presence in Vaalima will add more spice in the keema, especially prepared for his toothless mouth which only utters urdu. Kaun Kambakht hindi bolne ki zurrat karta hai hum to bas urdu bolte hain……..

    M.F.Hussain- presence of indian born qatari Picasso is also neccesary afterall he will gift a portray of Sania painted in the same manner as he has painted Goddess Saraswati and Bharatmata.His artistic freedom and his liberal imagination will lead to a great painting of Sania.Shoaib will be happy to find his bride in a very international flavour.

    the list continues with Mahesh Bhatt,Arundhati Roy,Teesta Sitalvad etc.

  36. @ GB:

    “The happy couple came today in front of cameras and informed the world of their desire to settle down in Dubai together, indeed a place that has given us many ambassadors of India-Pakistan unity like the Big D. While Shoaib Malik’s fans rejoiced (all three of them) and Sania’s admirers reluctantly deleted her “taken in action” pictures from their head drives, relationship experts warned Sania to be careful with her service and foot-placement since she would now be subject to ejection if she triple-faults.”

    Lovely!!! Clap clap clap.

    @Ritesh- Lovely comment.

  37. sania not playing for india?… hmmm.. lets see..

    what are we missing if 100+ seed, media manufactured super star does not play for india (like her city mate.. Azhar.. who played..for.. well)?

    i’d say zilch. good riddance..
    go and settle in Saudi for all we care and play for any freaking nation.

  38. I really did wish Sania moved to Pakistan to play tennis.

    In this manner we can support some other indian girl who actually plays tennis.

    When was the last time she actually won a championship or stayed till the semis of any tournament.?

    Please Sania move to Dubai and represent Pakistan…please I beg of you….!!!

  39. Ritesh, excellently put – this should be shown to “secular liberals” who would no doubt brandish you as a “sanghi”, “internet lunatic” etc. SRK fans might even call you a Shiv Sainik or an Amir Khan fan !! But doesn’t matter – we know what the truth is and why the families are so keen on the marriage in the first place. Same goes for you too Kautilya and Tejaswi !! Beware of the “secular liberals” like the ones Ritesh mentioned above !!

  40. “and the over-rated hottie tennis queen Sania Mirza.”

    GB,

    Are you saying we over-rate her “hotness” or her tennis prowess here?

    🙂

  41. Where is Rishi Khujur? Long time no see ..

    And Where is Kishor? Dude, whats happening in your beloved city?

  42. Thandaa lo yaar! Jaa rahi hai toh jaaney do.
    Sania is an embarassment at to indian tennis (and now indian muslims/women).
    I say go to Dubai and play for pakistan… thanks Shoaib.. plz don’t bring her (or your sorry ass back to india) !

  43. @ All,

    See, Sania Mirza was never a top 10 Player,or had the talent to win even a Grand slam by fluke.But like it or not, she was the best thing we ever had in Singles women’s tennis in the history of Indian Trennis.She has been in the top 30’s of the WTA Rankings.The Nirupama Vaidyanathans and the Sheetal Gautams or Rushmi Chakravartys never made it to the top 300’s,nor can we see any one repeat the act in the foreseeable future. Sania was nor is a world beater, but she definitely is the best we have in her field. How do you challenge that and call her over-rated?
    As Regards her marriage, Shoaib Malik might just be a polygamist scoundrel, and a man with a tarnished past, and a man from Pakistan, and a man currently serving Ban from his very own Cricket Board, But Sania seems to be pretty happy with her marriage right? Who are we to question her nationalism and love for her country by her decision to marry someone from another country? She has at least won us a few sports medals, what have we done for the country to question her nationalistic feelings?

    Let us just hope she does take the right decision as this Ayesha Siddiqui case unfolds. We sure wont want her to get married to a man with such a tainted past if he is proven guilty. But, even if she does, Our blessings should be with her.

  44. @GB,

    I must admit that I got too emotional, but, it was sickening to see people more interested in marriage/circus of Sania whilst 15 years of peace and prosperity of my home city(Hyderabad-btw, the same place Sania comes from) was being destroyed in a matter of few days.

    It almost reminded me of Nero enjoying his fiddle while Rome was in flames. Simply lost my temper.

    Apologies to you all.

  45. What the hell do you mean by over-rated?? She has been in the top 100 consistently for many years…… name 3 other tennis players from India who have done it…..

  46. What the hell do you mean by over-rated?? She has been in the top 100 consistently for many years…… ..

    quite a high bar you set there mate. top 100!

  47. @Crypt:
    Who are we to question her nationalism and love for her country by her decision to marry someone from another country?

    Don’t say another country. Say our number one enemy country. Then we can see it in the proper perspective.

  48. I havent set the bar bruno…..the tennis players prior to Sania Mirza have…..And BTW I dont like tht bar either….but the low baris also why players like Leader paes are so celebrated in India for winning doubles events which most other coutries dont give a hoot about!

  49. I tend to agree with some of the comments here that take issue with Sania being called ‘overrated’. She is by far the best female tennis player we have ever had and one of the very few South Asian players who made the top 30. That’s actually a matter of pride. She’s not as good as the Williams sisters, or the French and Belgian players – so what? She has beaten some top 5 players (Kustnetsova, for instance), which is more than any other Indian tennis player probably has done.

    We seem to get a sort of devilish satisfaction in running down certain people, just because they get more media coverage, or are better looking and media friendly than we would like them to be. We prefer to lionize plain, media shy, apparently “humble” people like PT Usha. These women should stay in their place, and not act too uppity, right!?

    Then there is the question of religion – that immediately gives some people like Ritesh to start with their communal vitriol – ably rah rah-ed by Kaushik and Yourfan2. Of course she should call Azhar because he is Muslim and a match fixer (Not Jadeja or Chopra though, since they are Hindu match fixers). SRK – because he is Muslim and…sorry I don’t know what. He recruits Pakistani cricketers for IPL, perhaps. Of course he also recruits other nationalities, but hey, let’s not lose focus here.
    Dilip Kumar, Hussain, Roy – all part of a diatribe against Muslims in a discussion where we are discussing Sania Mirza’s wedding! Wah bhai wah. Trust the rabid haters to get their single point agenda – Muslims are bad, bad people – every time, in any discussion, any forum – regardless of total illogic or lack of context.

    And of course anyone defending the Hussains and Roys and SRKs are anti-national and unpatriotic. How similar to the inbred, doltish, rabid right-wing tea-party protesters in the US. Just that instead of Glenn Beck, their leaders are people like Bal Thackeray and Narendra Modi.

  50. Shan,
    Most people don’t have a problem with SRK recruiting Pakis in his team. IPL1 had many other teams with Paki players. But, I have a problem when he says Pakistan is a great neighbour to have. Doesn’t he know the history we have with our great neighbour?

  51. @ Anirban,

    Definitely our number one enemy country for the last 63 years. But it is this feeling of mutual animositycountry which will keep it that way for the next 630 years.

    @ Shan

    Cant agree with you more

    @ JII

    SRK saying Pakistan is a great neighbour to have was not right. So there’s no justifying it. But do you support the treatment dished out to him by parties like Shiv Sena who have a problem with even Sachin Tendulkar when he says I am an Indian first and then a Marathi ?

  52. Crypt,
    Where did I justify Shiva Sena and other such extremists? They are the lunatic fringe and should be ignored or crushed depending on whether they’ve crossed the limits or not. But, that does not absolve SRK of what he said.

  53. more wah bhai wahs…

    He recruits Pakistani cricketers for IPL, perhaps. Of course he also recruits other nationalities, but hey, let’s not lose focus here.

    ya right. thats the same. we have same kinda relation with pak as new zealand..

    Muslims are bad, bad people – every time, in any discussion, any forum – regardless of total illogic or lack of context.

    thanks for putting words in the rabid,hindu-right wingers, non-bleeding-hearts collective mouths. that’s what we do. we are convinced with your “logical” statement here. thanks.

    And of course anyone defending the Hussains and Roys and SRKs are anti-national and unpatriotic

    hmmm lets see. similar to amitabh being compared to dawood because he promoted gujarat tourism? right?.. no wait, thats done by a progressive, liberal, leftist party.. forget it. my bad.

    Dilip Kumar, Hussain, Roy – all part of a diatribe against Muslims in a discussion where we are discussing Sania Mirza’s wedding! Wah bhai wah

    oh! really? hmm.. how did we end up bringing narendra modi in sania’s wedding post? oh wait. right. that’s allowed, according to rules set by progressives. the noble people. the holier-than-thous. the people with highest level of double standards.

    wah bhai wah.

  54. Kautilya:
    Valid set of points. How can i get in touch with you?
    I used to be a avid writer here until a year back…so you can look up my stuff. Share similar ideas.

    Hope to learn more from you outside this forum.

  55. @ Kautilya
    And oh yes! If you want to lebel, then dont call them “progressives”, “liberals”.

    Call them pseudo-progressives, faux-liberals, etc.

    Real progressives and liberals represent better ideas.

  56. Shohar ney “Miss Chasmis” ko Ullu banaya
    Mohtarma ney bachpan ke dost ko Kela dilaya
    Akhbaarwalon ney nikalee Ch*tiyon ki baaraat
    Aur us baarat mein khub naachey Shan aur Crypt saat saat. 😉

    Crypt@ “Ritesh, go get a life and some secular education.”

    By Crypt’s definition, the best place Ritesh can get some solid secular education is in an Indian Madrassa

    Hai na, bolo bolo? Hai na, bolo bolo? Psecs ko Pakistan sey…Pakistan ko Psecs sey …Pyaar Hai…Pyaar Hai.

  57. I think Kautilya summed it up perfectly. just to add to that, “Of course she should call Azhar.” – Yes she should. She can take an important lesson from Azhar’s book as to how to hide behind “I am being targetted because I belong to a minority community.” Jadeja and Chopra were unforunate not to have such excuse ready.

  58. @Kautilya:
    “ya right. thats the same. we have same kinda relation with pak as new zealand..”

    Then why single SRK out. Why not Shilpa Shetty for having Sohail Tanvir, or Hyderabad for Afridi? The only reason is obviously under the garb of being anti-Pakistan, you are actually attacking Indian Muslims–your primary target – represented by SRK.

    “thanks for putting words in the rabid,hindu-right wingers, non-bleeding-hearts collective mouths. that’s what we do. we are convinced with your “logical” statement here. thanks.”

    You are welcome. These themes have been heard here many times before from your supporters like Khujur. You might be new here. They aren’t. What other reason can there be for giving mostly Muslim examples – Hussain, Dilip Kumar etc.? Please know people are not idiots. They understand Ritesh’s drift – as well as your objective in defending his illogical vitriol.

    “hmmm lets see. similar to amitabh being compared to dawood because he promoted gujarat tourism? right?.. no wait, thats done by a progressive, liberal, leftist party.. forget it. my bad.”

    Another example of using a totally unrelated (and stupid to boot) argument to try and defend an indefensible one! Are you implying I am compared Amitabh to Dawood? Wonder where you got that, because I certainly didn’t. Or are you just taking the easy way out and conflating me with people who have – thereby lumping everyone who is anti-communal or doesn’t agree with a rabid right-wing agenda into the “pseudo-progressives, faux-liberals” camp, as Khujur blithely names them?

    “oh! really? hmm.. how did we end up bringing narendra modi in sania’s wedding post? oh wait. right. that’s allowed, according to rules set by progressives. the noble people. the holier-than-thous. the people with highest level of double standards.”

    I was just comparing Modi and Thackeray – the right wing heroes, with Glenn Beck. There is an uncanny similarity in the “with us or against us” philosophy that all extremists worldwide seem to follow. Admittedly it was a rhetorical comparison and did not contribute to the logic of the debate (that I didn’t start in the first place). My bad. But then I was responding to an asinine post. But that seemed to irk you enough to respond with a rather silly little attempt at rebuttal.

    Kautilya, is it? I have read Kautilya, I admire Kautilya, Kautilya was one of India’s greatest logicians/philosophers.

    You, my friend, are no Kautilya.

    🙂

  59. Or are you just taking the easy way out and conflating me with people who have – thereby lumping everyone who is anti-communal or doesn’t agree with a rabid right-wing agenda into the “pseudo-progressives, faux-liberals” camp, as Khujur blithely names them?

    yep. exactly the same way you have been lumping all “radid, right-wingers”. i guess you tasted your own pill huh? bitter?

    I was just comparing Modi and Thackeray – the right wing heroes, with Glenn Beck. There is an uncanny similarity in the “with us or against us” philosophy that all extremists worldwide seem to follow

    don’t you use the “us against them” all the time? and yes, comparing beck and modi is plain stupid. first difference and to make it simple for you – beck is a certified moron. modi is not. in fact he is a major pain in your favorite monarch’s ass..which is the paramount reason for you hating him. (if you were really concerned about riots and all, you should have hated rajiv gandhi in equal major if not more. but no. modi and gujarat is all we got in last 60 yrs right? no delhi, no bhiwandi, no bhagalpaur.. forget it. i don’t think you know these places even)

    But then I was responding to an asinine post. But that seemed to irk you enough to respond with a rather silly little attempt at rebuttal.

    silly attempt 🙂 ? ok. if you say so. i m no expert on rebuttals like u..

    You, my friend, are no Kautilya.

    you got that right my friend. i ain’t no kautilya. and can’t be. he was the greatest. i cud have used any other pseudo name. shouldn’t have mattered. my “silly rebuttals” would have been the same. so there.

    @rishi khujur : my email is kautilyasworld@gmail.com

  60. @Jii
    Right you didn’t. See, I agree with you 🙂
    @ Bengal Voice
    If I call you brother now,that makes you a ch*tiya as well, right?
    So I would not do that. Now respect towards other people’s opinions on a particular topic that you differ on, has not been your forte, that is evident.

    [GB adds: Keep your abuses off the comment thread.]

    Same advice with a minor change – Go get a life with some “primary education”

    🙂

  61. Bengal Voice, hark, there is something more. Before you start harping your street lingua and this comments section is full of garbage there was just a point I thought I would make while time is.

    I never said “secular education” is provided in Madrasas. Education again teaches you to stop putting words in others mouths.

    Primary education boy, that is what you need. I think you are done with A,B,C,D. Start with “Social Study” and “Moral Science”.

  62. “if you were really concerned about riots and all, you should have hated rajiv gandhi in equal major if not more. but no. modi and gujarat is all we got in last 60 yrs right”

    Same old vicious cycle. Do you think this is Congress vs BJP? We equally hate Rajiv Gandhi for what he did. That simply does not justify what Modi did.

    @GB

    Sorry for the language. But “ch*tiya” is not very endearing either. I had asked it in your event in Kolkata why you let people go on with the communal arguments and you had talked about freedom of expression. But someone publishing links to Communal propaganda sites is going a bit too far. Do check Bengal Voice’s last comment.

  63. @ kautilya

    Everything has that you are discussing here has been discussed before. Many people get it after those discussions, some dont.
    Dont waste your time with the second lot.

    I will write to you. Thanks for giving me the contact. We have real stuff to take care of.

  64. @ Shan
    Kautilya, a tarka-Pandit (logician)?
    I thought he was one of Hindu Dharmas’ greatest political scientist 🙂

    How about Rishi Kapila (Sankhya school), Rishi Gautama (Nyaya school) and Rishi Kanada (Veisheshika school) for the list of greatest Tarka Pandits (logicians)?

    In fact i can safely say that the earliest Hetu-centric Hindu philosophical schools produced the best contemporary logicians in the world, (not just in India, even better than the Greek schools)

    But thats my personal opinion.

  65. @Crypt,

    Boo hoo…Did I hurt your delicate feelings, antel? Perhaps you need to brush up your basic reading skills. Go back and read my lines …I wrote that the media have started a parade of sorts, and you figuratively danced in the parade. If that struck a raw chord, that means that the appellation described you correctly. So, go blame yourself for being who you are.

    That article, by the way, is a recent Rediff article. Are you accusing Rediff of “communal propaganda” too?

  66. @ Shan
    Kautilya, a tarka-Pandit (logician)?
    I thought he was one of Hindu Dharmas’ greatest political scientist

    How about Rishi Kapila (Sankhya school), Rishi Gautama (Nyaya school) and Rishi Kanada (Veisheshika school) for the list of greatest Tarka Pandits (logicians)?

    In fact i can safely say that the earliest Hetu-centric Hindu philosophical schools produced the best contemporary logicians in the world, (not just in India, even better than the Greek schools)

    But thats my personal opinion. Do let me know if and why you disagree.

    @ kautilya

    Everything has that you are discussing here has been discussed before. Many people get it after those discussions, some dont.
    Dont waste your time with the second lot.

    I will write to you. Thanks for giving me the contact. We have real stuff to take care of.

    @ Bengalvoice
    Arre! Namecalling korsis kaen?

  67. @ Kautilya

    “No you don’t! Not at all” – defies logic. You seem to have an insight into my mind that I am not aware of. Very possible though, must be in the realms of Hindutva, which again, I being a Hindu am not aware of.

    @ Bengal Voice

    “Vivekajyoti – Paramount cry for a Hindu nation” is not communal propaganda, it is very secular.And I must hone my reading skills to understand what or who a “ch*tiya” is,agreed.
    On a different note, how are the classes going,junior? Got admission did you?

  68. Oh… another thing. Please dont boohoo so much. It is very humid in Kolkata. You might just get dehydrated. Shorir kharap hoe jabe to,erom korena. And then you will miss your primary classes and the social conduct classes as well where you are taught to respect others opinion. The least you will be taught out there is to not abuse others.
    You abuse me once, I can return the favour twice. Only if the comments moderation was impartial and unbiased from a blogger I highly regard. 🙂

  69. Tui tokari? Akhno school-e bhorti hauni mone hoche. Taratari hoe jao. admission bondho hoe jabe. Tomar sathe ar mukh lagbona…. There is no point talking to people who are can not debate decently. I repeat, primary education is what you need boy. Ar bari theke chhottobyalai ektu kanmola, ektu shashon. Shobar bhaggye jotena to, tai amader shomaje kichu shobjanta disrespectful element toiri hoi. Madrassai porini. Kintu definitely tor theke bhalo school-e porechi.
    Not another word more from me on this topic.

  70. Arnab

    if possible , please remove the below Pingback link (Global Voices Online).
    Its sad to see disfigured Indian map.

  71. While Shoaib Malik’s fans rejoiced (all three of them) and Sania’s admirers reluctantly deleted her “taken in action” pictures from their head drives

    tooo good

  72. @Crypt

    You definitely need to learn your ABC’s. First you couldn’t read from the article I gave you that it was a Rediff article. Second, you couldn’t comprehend Arnab’s advice to cease writing. Phew !!!

  73. Your blog posts used to be fun.. ..NOW, not so much

    They used to be well-written.. ..NOW, not so much —— like how lyricists such as Sameer started out with decent lyrics, wherein the words were used as tools to convey some specific thoughts, and then reversed the order by writing masterpieces where words were inserted just to fit in with the rhyme scheme

    ..and what’s with the biased comment moderation?? (and also, this Bengal Voice dude, seems to have some serious emotional issues…. ahhh, forget it. He wouldn’t listen to anybody.. wud rather make out with his own reflection in the mirror)

    Yeah, I know, its your blog and you can do anything you like with it.

    You’ve a 1001 followers… so doesn’t make a difference if one takes your leave and makes it 1000…. same difference

    —— so long ——-

  74. Since Bengalvoice is busy making out with his reflection in the mirror, would you be interested in making out with me.

    Might as well tell me your countries’ secrects while we are at it.

  75. @ Karachi Halwa : “Might as well tell me your countries’ secrects while we are at it”

    Hmmm. You mean “might as well tell me your COUNTRY’s secrets”. How many countries am I supposed to have ??

    You must be from Pakistan !!

  76. @M.Jalwa’s “How many countries am I supposed to have?”

    Funny. Karachi Halwa wrote to Madhur, not to you ! Trying to sneak in with another handle eh? Madhur?

  77. Dear omnipotent pontificate Barse Baadalwa imperator,

    I am not Bengal Voice, but Marathi Jalwa.

    I only have one ‘handle’, not more. And what a handle it is!! Since I have handled my handle very well too date, it too hands itself in a highly handible manner. You have to hand it to my handle.

    The ‘I’ was merely intended to be a rhetorical ‘I’. I am shorry you got con-fooshed.

    …… You too must be from Pakistan?

  78. @ SHAN : Kautilya, is it? I have read Kautilya, I admire Kautilya, Kautilya was one of India’s greatest logicians/philosophers.

    MJ is con-fooshed. Who is this great & mighty logician / philosopher Kautilya? Which branch of logic did he practice? Was it Kautilya the episdemologist? Or the great bivalentist? Perchance he qualified at the Patna Academy of Applied Dialectical Education (acronym PAADE)?

    And was he also a great “feel-o-soap-her” to juto (boot)? The different branches of Indian “feel-o-soap-he” do not mention his name. From Medhatiti (“Made-a-titty” .. hee hee) to Tattvacintamoni.

    Shan must have been reading about the wrong Kautilya ….. that explains it all.

    @ SHAN : You, my friend, are no Kautilya.
    I have seen SHAN perform live. He is one of the most accomplished singers in India, providing the leading singing voice of innumerable Bollywood stars. He is an asset to our country and a source of unbridled pride for Bengal.

    You, my friend, are no SHAN. Your name from now is Ni-shaan.

  79. @Dekho yeh hai Jalwa

    Simbly hand over your handle to my handy friend – Anand the Wanderer. He will be stobbing by gwite soon !!!

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